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    Post by Gulf91 on Sun Mar 23, 2014 7:15 am

    Any ideas what the decal is please? Cannot make it out from the pics but has been applied over a smaller decal,looks like a Castle turret of some sorts.

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    Post by thunderchild on Sun Mar 23, 2014 10:35 am

    hello gulf hope your well sir ,yes it looks to be a messed with bgs helmet ,i would prefer it without this bogus Totenkopf sticker for my west german border guard display,why do people do this is beyond me ,perhaps the ill informed seller thinks he has an ss helmet here ,im not sure but if its cheap and you want to keep as bgs remove the sticker and iits fine ,if expensive avoid like the plague of the black death
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    Post by Gulf91 on Sun Mar 23, 2014 10:47 am

    thunderchild wrote:hello gulf hope your well sir ,yes it looks to be a messed with bgs helmet ,i would prefer it without this bogus Totenkopf sticker for my west german border guard display,why do people do this is beyond me ,perhaps the ill informed seller thinks he has an ss helmet here ,im not sure but if its cheap and you want to keep as bgs remove the sticker and iits fine ,if expensive avoid like the plague of the black death

    Wasnt sure what the decal is to be honest and dammn shame if an original helmet has been ruined. Got a nice Norgi refurbed M35,I say nice,had been overpainted in a terrible gloss paint with the worst ever WW2 type decals glued on. When I removed the crappy decals the original Norgi DOUBLE decals are under it-IDIOTS!!!

    Kind of hoped that the skull decal was an original Police district one,have had a google search but cannot seem to find any info regarding the various town/district decals that were used on these Police helmets.

    Either way,been after one for a while and decal apart is a very nice helmet for the collection.

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    Post by loski on Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:53 pm

    Hi Gulf
    You could try removing the fake Totenkpfot decal with warm damp cloth just wet the cloth in warm water and lay it over the decal until it slides off hopefully the original one will stay put I can’t guarantee it will work but it might be worth a punt.
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    Post by Gulf91 on Sun Mar 23, 2014 3:11 pm

    Like the helmet even more now and thanks Graham for the suggestion.

    Took a while but worth it,careful scraping with a fingernail did the trick. Kind of gutted that a small portion of the decal is missing but sure that was like that before the decal was put over it an dnot done by my scraping.

    Baden Wurttemberg I believe.

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    Post by thunderchild on Sun Mar 23, 2014 4:24 pm

    sorry gulf ,i didnt realise the helmet was in your possession,i thought it might be a proposed purchase upon advice given ,well there's a result on the hidden decal ,i reckon your right though about the damage already being there as im sure you were very carefull indeed and it makes sence why the other decal was applied purely to cover this small damage ,result
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    Post by Gulf91 on Sun Mar 23, 2014 4:32 pm

    Well happy with it but seriously need to stop buying helmets and cull the collection a bit.
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    Post by loski on Sun Mar 23, 2014 9:33 pm

    Hi Gulf
    Im glad it came off ok looks good
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    Post by Gulf91 on Mon Mar 24, 2014 3:37 am

    Cheers Graham,am chuffed it came off so easily and a nice bonus that the previous owners name was on the liner.
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    Post by Gulf91 on Sun Apr 06, 2014 12:40 pm

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    Nothing remarkable other than here in the UK,USMC EGA stamped covers arent that easy to come by. Appears to have been something sewn to the cover at one stage. They didnt have glint IFF tape back in the early 90s did they? Cover dated 1990,Pasgt dated 1989.
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    Post by Gulf91 on Sun Apr 13, 2014 11:00 am

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    Post by thunderchild on Sun Apr 13, 2014 1:44 pm

    very nice pasgt gulf ,ive not seen the foam crown pad fitted before ,is it a common upgrade and great modeloz is this the later 70's version the cover looks like the west german ameoba zeltarn is it original to the helmet
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    Post by Gulf91 on Sun Apr 13, 2014 4:01 pm

    thunderchild wrote:very nice pasgt gulf ,ive not seen the foam crown pad fitted before ,is it a common upgrade and great modeloz is this the later 70's version the cover looks like the west german ameoba zeltarn is it original to the helmet

    Not sure if the foam donut was an issue item or PX bought.

    The Spanish helmet and cover were bought separately but believe it is the correct type of cover for the later type helmet.

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    Post by Gulf91 on Sun Apr 13, 2014 4:01 pm

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    Post by 1stDivVet on Sat May 03, 2014 11:30 pm

    Newest addition. East German with rain pattern cover and net. Actually got his whole uniform. Found it at the local thrift store.

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    Post by 1stDivVet on Sun Jun 01, 2014 12:48 pm

    Today's find. Nothing special, but just how I like 'em! Un-messed with WW2 fixed bale helmet with original chin straps. Liner is a Firestone with good hbt webbing, nape strap, and sweatband. No liner chinstrap, but I'm content with it at a whoppin $20!!


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    Post by Gulf91 on Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:59 am

    Just arrived today with the following info---

    Hope you like the helmet, I acquired it in 2008 as we dropped some Afghan troops into the FOB at Sangin. One of them unfortunately left his helmet under the seat in our helicopter. There was no way I was going to track him down to return it so I kept it as a bit of a souvenir. It's just been sat in the garage for the last few years gathering dust so I thought I'd pass it on to someone else!

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    Post by loski on Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:56 pm

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    Has anyone in the UK got one of the above Belgian brown fiber M1 clone liners going cheap I don’t mind if it is missing the suspension unit or if the finis is bad but it needs  to be intact as it is going to be used in a euro shell and as I sad cheap. If anyone can help out drop me a pm.
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    Post by bolo on Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:22 am

    Easy Gee wrote:Helm , very nice M-51's and M-71 , love them all Mate, very cool. Cool  Cool

    Gulf, if they are Danish they will have German or Austrian markings or in the rare cases US,who all supplied these liners.

    Belgium eary liners are always marked with ABL, the later 71 models can be a combination of ABL and Ulbrirchts...The Danes started producing their own liners in 63', and interestingly enough then supplied Norway, who then had a M1- Euro clone all of their own, which they called the M58... I am a M1 Euro- Clone geek as you can tell  Laughing  

    hi Gary, I have a euro clone that has a Vietnam style liner and it has a mold marking in the crown with letters:

    MIX do you know what country made this M1 style liner?
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    Post by Gulf91 on Sat Dec 27, 2014 2:09 pm

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    Post by austromunga on Sun Jan 04, 2015 7:47 pm

    Hi all
    I also noticed a few familiar faces here from other forums..
    James for one!!
    anyway .....here's a recent  purchase... I posted it in the Korean war thread but after 65 views... still no replies??? so i thought I would have another go here!!!  I believe it to be a Korean war era M1... it's a rear seam swivel bale with a 51/52 Westinghouse CAPAC liner, with green webbing (nape strap is missing and suspension is cut) and a replacement 70's sweatband, liner has several thick coats of paint with sand texture added , liner strap in brown leather with a black buckle, chin straps are WW II khaki bar stitched type with brass hardware (with nice patina), it came with a late WW II USMC repro helmet cover...but under this I discovered a non stainless rim repainted shell with a nice hand painted 2ND Rangers lozenge insignia!!
    heat stamp is I think 1246 F (lots of paint have made it very hard to read!!)
    your thoughts please!!

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    Post by Gulf91 on Tue Jan 06, 2015 4:30 pm

    No expert on German helmets so whats the opinions on this please?

    Inner paint looks to be original "apple green"?,outer original slightly textured grey repaint,chinstrap and liner band appear original but leather is some strange very thick leather with only 2 vent holes on each tounge.

    Do not want to remove the liner to gain access to the liner band stampings but from what I can pry away from the shell slightly appears to be on one side--

    SCHUBERTH-WERKE
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    BRAUNSWEIG
    1937

    On other side--

    62nA
    55.

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    Post by onscope on Mon Jan 12, 2015 4:27 pm

    A Swedish Hjalm 90 with M90 cover.

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    Post by thunderchild on Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:24 pm

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    Post by Gulf91 on Fri Feb 06, 2015 11:56 am

    Sold pretty much all of my Nato Euro M1 clones but couldnt resist this one. Think that with the correct net etc these look very very smart and a bonus that it has a different liner to the norm. Only downer is its missing its nape strap-have a spare Green one but not a Tan/Khaki one.

    Any ideas please on the liner-Air Force maybe?

    Many Thanks.

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