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    Italian Helmet Cover Help

    Post by abefroman on Thu Jul 16, 2015 10:23 pm

    I have this Italian helmet which I'm pretty sure is an M33 but I can't figure out the cover. It looks like San Marco pattern but it is too small to fit my helmet, evne though my helmet is a small. Is this cover for a different helmet?







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    Re: Italian Helmet Cover Help

    Post by Wolverine on Fri Jul 17, 2015 1:20 pm

    Probably that cover was made for the airborne helmet?

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    Re: Italian Helmet Cover Help

    Post by abefroman on Fri Jul 17, 2015 7:12 pm

    Wolverine wrote:Probably that cover was made for the airborne helmet?

    Was the airborne helmet that much smaller and would the San Marco guys even wear it?
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    Re: Italian Helmet Cover Help

    Post by Wolverine on Sun Jul 19, 2015 3:23 am

    I don't know about San Marco, but the cover looks like the right profile for the airborne helmet.
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    Re: Italian Helmet Cover Help

    Post by ripcord on Sun Jul 19, 2015 11:43 am

    The cover looks like it could fit on type M42 Italian Para helmets.

    Consorzio Liguria is /was a contractor to the Italian navy.

    Considering their  relative small number of airborne slots, it's likely the cover is a scarce  and desirable piece.
     
    The manufacturing date is 1988; a few years before the M29 pattern was retired..

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    Re: Italian Helmet Cover Help

    Post by abefroman on Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:07 pm

    ripcord wrote:The cover looks like it could fit on type M42 Italian Para helmets.

    Consorzio Liguria is /was a contractor to the Italian navy.

    Considering their  relative small number of airborne slots, it's likely the cover is a scarce  and desirable piece.
     
    The manufacturing date is 1988; a few years before the M29 pattern was retired..

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    Very interesting. Were the para helmets that much smaller? Since they were a contractor to the Navy, do you think this would probably be for the San Marco Marines?
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    Re: Italian Helmet Cover Help

    Post by ripcord on Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:27 pm

    Here is a '60s-'70s Italian M42 type Para helmet.
     
    I believe they were the last steel type helmet issued to the Italian armed forces.

    Notice the distinct differences compared to  M33 type helmets.

                                                 


    There is more than a good chance that  the helmet cover you have could have  been issued to COMSUBIN, not SMM.  

    Italian Marines do have a  recon and demo company who is parachute qualified so I suppose it could have been issued to SMM, but since  all COMSUBIN  personnel are  parachute qualified , it is more likely  that it is a COMSUBIN issued item.


    Either way, really cool piece...



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    Re: Italian Helmet Cover Help

    Post by abefroman on Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:46 pm

    ripcord wrote:Here is a '60s-'70s Italian M42 type Para helmet.
     
    I believe they were the last steel type helmet issued to the Italian armed forces.

    Notice the distinct differences compared to  M33 type helmets.

                                                                              


    There is more than a good chance that  the helmet cover you have could have  been issued to COMSUBIN, not SMM.  

    Italian Marines do have a  recon and demo company who is parachute qualified so I suppose it could have been issued to SMM, but since  all COMSUBIN  personnel are  parachute qualified , it is more likely  that it  is a COMSUBIN issued item.


    Either way, really cool piece...

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    Great info, thanks! Now i just need to get an M42 and see if it fits. Are they expensive?
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    Re: Italian Helmet Cover Help

    Post by ripcord on Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:44 am

    Found these images today:


    AT : http://www.militarymodelling.com/sites/1/images/member_albums/36506/italian%20paratroop%20three-colour%20disruptive.jpg



    Not really certain of M42 Para helmet values but prices for Italian helmets are all over the place : depending on vintage and provenance they range from dead cheap to outrageously expensive..



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    Re: Italian Helmet Cover Help

    Post by baldo on Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:15 pm

    San Marco cover for m33

    http://i68.servimg.com/u/f68/18/33/71/88/27816611.jpg
    San Marco cover maybe Comsubin too covers for M42/60 usually are size 3 (small)

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    Re: Italian Helmet Cover Help

    Post by abefroman on Wed Feb 10, 2016 2:54 pm

    baldo wrote:


    Wow thanks for the information. Are these 3 covers all San Marco/ Comsubin?
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    Re: Italian Helmet Cover Help

    Post by baldo on Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:00 pm

    All 3 covers are San Marco or comsubin pattern but there aren't photographic evidence of use of these covers and helmets of M42/60 with anchor stencil.

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    Re: Italian Helmet Cover Help

    Post by abefroman on Wed Feb 10, 2016 6:09 pm

    baldo wrote:All 3 covers are San Marco or comsubin pattern but there aren't photographic evidence of use of these covers and helmets of M42/60 with anchor stencil.

    All 3 used during same years?
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    Re: Italian Helmet Cover Help

    Post by baldo on Thu Feb 11, 2016 6:43 pm

    Only one cover has label but it's the same of your , in same pictures can you see both colors variations.
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    Re: Italian Helmet Cover Help

    Post by abefroman on Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:00 pm

    baldo wrote:Only one cover has label but it's the same of your , in same pictures can you see both colors variations.
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    Great pictures! Thank you!

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