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    French Jackets OD and camo from 1964 until 2000 - correct names and types

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    Post by Mellon Sat Apr 16, 2016 1:41 pm

    Hi,

    I saw this is a bit difficult for everybody, to distinguish between all of the cold-war french Olive-Green Jacket.

    Here are the proper names and history:

    -Model 1964 Satin300 (SC300)
    Made in cotton sateen 300 gr/m2 (hence the name), infrared proof.
    Non-removable Hood (often cut), drawstring waist, two shirt pockets (2 hidden buttons each), two zipped breast pockets (opening bottom up)
    Only available in olive-green material. (camouflage means commercial type)
    Produced from 1964 to 1980.
    Used from 1965 to the end of the 1980s
    Standard combat and exercice field jacket.

    -Model F1
    Made in: 35% cotton and 65 % polyester, sateen 210 gr/m2
    No Hood, drawstring waist, two shirt pockets (2 pressure buttons each pocket), two zipped breast pockets (opening from top to bottom)
    Only available in olive-green material. (camouflage means commercial type)
    Produced from 1980 to 1986
    Used from 1980 to the mid 1990s

    -Model F2
    Made in: 35% cotton and 65 % polyester, sateen 270 gr/m2
    detachable Hood, elastic waist, two shirt pockets (2 pressure buttons each pocket), two zipped breast pockets (opening from top to bottom).
    Only available in olive-green material before 1991.
    In 1991, a desert camouflage, called officialy Zone Aride (known by collectors/airsofters as Daguet) was introduced for the 1991 Gulf war.
    In 1993, a temperate camouflage, Called Centre Europe (known by collectors/airsofters as CCE) was introduced for the intervention in Yugoslavia.
    Produced from 1986 to 2008 (for the olive green version) or 2011 (for the camo versions)
    Used from 1986 to the beginning of the 2000s for the olive green version. Still in use for the camo versions.
    WARNING: around 1994 the shirt pockets began to disappear. Despite this, the military kept on with the name F2

    I hope it's easier to understand now.

    Best Regards
    Mellon
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    Post by Mellon Sat Apr 16, 2016 4:47 pm

    To finish this post, i will add:

    -The F2 series of jackets are actually being replaced by the T3 and T4 New Generation combat Jacket (often called FELIN Jacket)

    -The Mle 64 SC300 didn't really replaced the javcket model 47-52 TTA and 47-56 TAP until the begining of the 1970s. That's why you can find paratroopers mle 47-56 TAP Jacket in an olive-green shade rather than in dark green kaki (very common in the Algerian war)-> They are post 1961. The same is true for the combat jacket 47-52 TTA and 47-52 TTA allégée (Lightweight jacket)

    Hope it's clear.

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    Post by Mellon Sat Apr 16, 2016 5:21 pm

    Mellon wrote:Hi,

    I saw  this is a bit difficult for everybody, to distinguish between all of the cold-war  french Olive-Green Jacket.

    Here are the proper names and history:

    -Model 1964 Satin300 (SC300)
    Made in cotton sateen 300 gr/m2 (hence the name), infrared proof.
    Non-removable Hood (often cut), drawstring waist, two shirt pockets (2 hidden buttons each), two zipped breast pockets (opening bottom up)
    Only available in olive-green material. (camouflage means commercial type)
    Produced from 1964 to 1980.
    Used from 1965 to the end of the 1980s
    Standard combat and exercice field jacket.

    -Model F1
    Made in: 35% cotton and 65 % polyester, sateen 210 gr/m2
    No Hood, drawstring waist, two shirt pockets (2 pressure buttons each pocket), two zipped breast pockets (opening from top to bottom)
    Only available in olive-green material. (camouflage means commercial type)
    Produced from 1980 to 1986
    Used from 1980 to the mid 1990s

    -Model F2
    Made in: 35% cotton and 65 % polyester, sateen 270 gr/m2
    detachable Hood, elastic waist, two shirt pockets (2 pressure buttons each pocket), two zipped breast pockets (opening from top to bottom).
    Only available in olive-green material before 1991.
    In 1991, a desert camouflage, called officialy Zone Aride (known by collectors/airsofters as Daguet) was introduced for the 1991 Gulf war.
    In 1993, a temperate camouflage, Called Centre Europe (known by collectors/airsofters as CCE) was introduced for the intervention in Yugoslavia.
    Produced from 1986 to 2008 (for the olive green version) or 2011 (for the camo versions)
    Used from 1986 to the beginning of the 2000s for the olive green version. Still in use for the camo versions.
    WARNING: around 1994 the shirt pockets began to disappear. Despite this, the military kept on with the name F2

    I hope it's easier to understand now.

    Best Regards
    Mellon

    As i can not edit my previous post , please find some corrections about the drawstring.

    Hi,

    I saw this is a bit difficult for everybody, to distinguish between all of the cold-war french Olive-Green Jacket.

    Here are the proper names and history:

    -Model 1964 Satin300 (SC300)
    Made in cotton sateen 300 gr/m2 (hence the name), infrared proof.
    Non-removable Hood (often cut), drawstring waist (same cord as the model 47 TTA), two shirt pockets (2 hidden buttons each), two zipped breast pockets (opening bottom up)
    Only available in olive-green material. (camouflage means commercial type)
    Produced from 1964 to 1980.
    Used from 1965 to the end of the 1980s
    Standard combat and exercice field jacket.

    -Model F1
    Made in: 35% cotton and 65 % polyester, sateen 210 gr/m2
    No Hood, drawstring waist (same cord as the model 64) , two shirt pockets (2 pressure buttons each pocket), two zipped breast pockets (opening from top to bottom)
    Only available in olive-green material. (camouflage means commercial type)
    Produced from 1980 to 1986
    Used from 1980 to the mid 1990s

    -Model F2
    Made in: 35% cotton and 65 % polyester, sateen 270 gr/m2
    detachable Hood, elastic rear drawstring at the bottom of the jacket, two shirt pockets (2 pressure buttons each pocket), two zipped breast pockets (opening from top to bottom).
    Only available in olive-green material before 1991.
    In 1991, a desert camouflage, called officialy Zone Aride (known by collectors/airsofters as Daguet) was introduced for the 1991 Gulf war.
    In 1993, a temperate camouflage, Called Centre Europe (known by collectors/airsofters as CCE) was introduced for the intervention in Yugoslavia.
    Produced from 1986 to 2008 (for the olive green version) or 2011 (for the camo versions)
    Used from 1986 to the beginning of the 2000s for the olive green version. Still in use for the camo versions.
    WARNING: around 1994 the shirt pockets began to disappear. Despite this, the military kept on with the name F2

    I hope it's easier to understand now.

    Best Regards
    Mellon

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    Post by belgium_one Mon Apr 18, 2016 3:23 pm

    Hello Very Happy

    some corrections to your text :

    the M64 vest has a removable hood

    the F2 vest does not have hood

    the F2 vest in desert camouflage was introduced in 1990 (I possess one dated of this year)

    the F2 vest was manufactured in two versions : a temperate and a hot climate in HBT

    the F2 vest in CE camo was produced only in "late version" , without the shirt pockets

    all models exist in commercial civilian production

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    Post by belgium_one Mon Apr 18, 2016 3:24 pm

    sorry Embarassed by "vest" , I mean "jacket"... because in french , we call it "veste"

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    Post by Mellon Mon Apr 18, 2016 5:06 pm

    belgium_one wrote:sorry  Embarassed  by "vest" , I mean "jacket"... because in french , we call it "veste"

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    Hello,

    No problem, i'm french and i tend to write, sometime, in "Franglish".
    Thanks for the corrections.

    So the jackets in CE and ZA, lost their pockets around the end of the 90s '
    My bad i correct the Hood fact.
    By "camouflage means commercial" i mean that mle 64 or F1 in "lizard" or another camo are not for the french army.

    Thanks for your help.

    Regards
    Mellon

    Here is the text corrected:

    To begin with, the official name  for olive green in the french military is "vert armée" -> army green


    -Model 1964 Satin300 (SC300)
    Made in cotton sateen 300 gr/m2 (hence the name), infrared proof.
    Removable Hood (often forget), drawstring waist (same cord as the model 47 TTA), two shirt pockets (2 hidden buttons each), two zipped breast pockets (opening bottom up)
    Only available in olive-green material. (camouflage means commercial type)
    Produced from 1964 to 1980.
    Used from 1965 to the end of the 1980s
    Standard combat and exercice field jacket.

    -Model F1
    Made in: 35% cotton and 65 % polyester, sateen 210 gr/m2
    No Hood, drawstring waist (same cord as the model 64) , two shirt pockets (2 pressure buttons each pocket), two zipped breast pockets (opening from top to bottom)
    Only available in olive-green material. (camouflage means commercial type)
    Produced from 1980 to 1986
    Used from 1980 to the mid 1990s

    -Model F2
    Made in: 35% cotton and 65 % polyester, sateen 270 gr/m2.
    Two versions : a HBT lightweight for hot weather, and a normal one for temperate weather.
    No Hood, elastic rear drawstring at the bottom of the jacket, two shirt pockets (2 pressure buttons each pocket), two zipped breast pockets (opening from top to bottom).
    Only available in olive-green material before 1990.
    In 1990, a desert camouflage, called officialy Zone Aride (known by collectors/airsofters as Daguet) was introduced fand used during the 1991 Gulf war.
    In 1993, a temperate camouflage,cCalled Centre Europe (known by collectors/airsofters as CCE) was introduced for the intervention in Yugoslavia.
    Produced from 1986 to 2008 (for the olive green version) or 2011 (for the camo versions)
    Used from 1986 to the beginning of the 2000s for the olive green version. Still in use for the camo versions.
    WARNING: around 1994 the shirt pockets began to disappear for the olive green version, followed by the camo versions. Despite this, the military kept on with the name F2


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