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    Re: Some of my clothing/ uniform items

    Post by Wolverine on Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:08 pm

    Mike, do you have any images showing Belgian soldiers wearing the EOD brassard? I have one just like this, but its construction seems more typical of a Dutch brassard. I am not certain though.
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    Re: Some of my clothing/ uniform items

    Post by Antarmike on Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:43 pm

    Wolverine wrote:Mike, do you have any images showing Belgian soldiers wearing the EOD brassard? I have one just like this, but its construction seems more typical of a Dutch brassard. I am not certain though.
    No it is an Ebay special and the description might be wrong,  Ebay sellers don't ssem able to tell Dutch and Belgium apart.  There are Gendarmerie Rijkswacht HiPower Dark blue holsters on at the moment listed as Dutch Army.....  It could be Dutch,  I am just taking it at face value as advertised.....

    http://www.coleccionesmilitares.com/eod/pages/belgica.htm

    I have PM'd you a link to other brassards from the same seller. What do you think?
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    Post by Wolverine on Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:43 pm

    Some of the seller's brassards are misidentified. For example, the MP brassard (white on blue) is certainly Dutch. And regarding the EOD brassard, I checked in my book on Dutch uniforms and insignia (Van Grijsgroen naar Camouflage, by M. Talens). In the chapter on insignia, he shows a series of brassards, including this EOD brassard. It is indeed Dutch, and the NSN is 8455-17-042-0016. Note that the bomb on this brassard is illustrated differently than the ones in the Belgian EOD badges shown here:
    http://www.coleccionesmilitares.com/eod/pages/belgica.htm

    A lot of Dutch brassards are based on the same basic design as the EOD brassard: a green background with cord sewn on to engage the shoulder strap.

    By comparison, Belgian brassards follow different styles. Some examples of mine can be seen here:
    http://iacmc.forumotion.com/t9673-some-new-belgian-insignia-and-armbands-isaf-un-etc
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    Re: Some of my clothing/ uniform items

    Post by Antarmike on Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:34 am

    Ebay return requested.....
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    Re: Some of my clothing/ uniform items

    Post by Antarmike on Wed May 03, 2017 5:30 am

    19 ACH BDU tunic




    Tunic may (or may not) be period for the insignia, but I have put the two lots together as a means of displaying the insignia (which didn't look much in a plastic bag!)

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    Re: Some of my clothing/ uniform items

    Post by Antarmike on Wed May 03, 2017 5:40 am

    Nice MP Brassard I bought has obviously gone missing in the post... Real shame, looked good in the photos, but seller has reimbursed me.    I really wish that Post offices/ carriers were more successful in getting consignments to their destination!  Ah well, it was not to be...




    If this lot turns up in your letterbox by mistake, please forward to me!
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    Re: Some of my clothing/ uniform items

    Post by Antarmike on Mon May 15, 2017 6:22 pm

    Something to keep my trousers up!


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    Re: Some of my clothing/ uniform items

    Post by Antarmike on Mon May 15, 2017 6:24 pm

    Antarmike wrote:Nice MP Brassard I bought has obviously gone missing in the post... Real shame, looked good in the photos, but seller has reimbursed me.    I really wish that Post offices/ carriers were more successful in getting consignments to their destination!  Ah well, it was not to be...




    If this lot turns up in your letterbox by mistake, please forward to me!

    It finally turned up in my letterbox.... Three weeks to come from Belgium!


    and a Borsthanger...


    Probably look more authentic on a BDU blouse/tunic?
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    Re: Some of my clothing/ uniform items

    Post by Wolverine on Mon May 15, 2017 7:15 pm

    That one is quite nice - are the letters glued in place?
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    Post by Antarmike on Mon May 15, 2017 7:56 pm

    I would guess fused by heat possibly?  there is no stitching, so either moulded directly to the fabric, glued on seperately of fused by heat?  Not really sure.....

    Plastic 1st Belgian Corps, insignia is of course machine stictched on....

    Didn't realise how out of focus photo was until I Had locked up the shed... will re photograph tomorrow.
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    Re: Some of my clothing/ uniform items

    Post by Antarmike on Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:39 pm

    Woolen Neckover 1957


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    Re: Some of my clothing/ uniform items

    Post by Antarmike on Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:49 pm

    Eulan Fle seems to be a moth proofing chemical, not really sure I want to pull this item over my head!
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    Re: Some of my clothing/ uniform items

    Post by Antarmike on Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:31 pm

    A couple of Arm bands


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    Re: Some of my clothing/ uniform items

    Post by Wolverine on Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:18 pm

    Very nice MP brassards from different makers - I think that other variants exist where the letters M and P are different sizes.
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    Re: Some of my clothing/ uniform items

    Post by Wolverine on Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:18 pm

    Antarmike wrote:Eulan Fle seems to be a moth proofing chemical,  not really sure I want to pull this item over my head!

    I wouldn't do it either...
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    Re: Some of my clothing/ uniform items

    Post by CollectinSteve on Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:22 pm

    Wolverine wrote:
    Antarmike wrote:Eulan Fle seems to be a moth proofing chemical,  not really sure I want to pull this item over my head!

    I wouldn't do it either...

    You wusses!  Just put a 1950s dated gasmask on and pull that sucker over it!  You'll be fine and fashionable at the same time.

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    Re: Some of my clothing/ uniform items

    Post by Wolverine on Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:09 pm

    Yes, I am sure the asbestos in the filter will cancel out whatever harm the anti-moth chemical might cause...
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    Re: Some of my clothing/ uniform items

    Post by CollectinSteve on Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:09 am

    Exactly! And the uranium paint to see better with is helpful too!

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    Re: Some of my clothing/ uniform items

    Post by Antarmike on Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:17 pm

    I think it is fairly obvious that these trousers are not supposed to be worn with these elastic braces/ suspenders.

    I bought this lot because I wanted the braces, but I now wonder what the trousers are?

    Can anyone tell me whether they are normal combat trousers?  are they work trousers (mechanics stc)  Ore they regular green battledress trousers?  Your help would be welcomed to identify them.  Thanks in advance Mike





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    Re: Some of my clothing/ uniform items

    Post by Wolverine on Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:46 pm

    I have a couple of different versions of these trousers, both dating from the 1950s. One type has the cargo pocket on the side, and one type has it on the front thigh. They came with suspenders like yours but I seem to recall that the buttons were on the inside of the waist band.
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    Re: Some of my clothing/ uniform items

    Post by Antarmike on Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:08 pm

    I am starting to wear jigaw pattern at a few shows so i took the opprtunity to purchase a few more examples witha view to wearing them one day
    These trousers do not carry any indication as to whether Army or navy
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    But second pair is clearly Navy

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    Re: Some of my clothing/ uniform items

    Post by Antarmike on Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:29 pm

    The first pair of Parachutists overtrousers in my collection. (Moon and Balls pattern)
    Devoid of flies or fly or any pockets other than one on the front of the leg and two side pockets. There are no buttons to attach braces.
    The overtrousers seem to be for the jump only and would have been discarded as soon as the parachutist landed.






    Unfortunately the waist tie ribbon seems to have been cut short , (one leg ribbon is also missing, but.......
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    Post by CollectinSteve on Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:49 pm

    Nice stuff. The OD trousers were standard military issue for all but the Paras throughout the 1960s through 1990s. The Paras probably had them as well, just that they were authorized to wear the camo.

    The 1962 Jigsaw trousers are fairly uncommon. That's the Navy contract version. No idea why they went out and bought there own when there was enough of the 1958 production sitting unused in stock to probably outfit the Navy 10x over.

    Nice minty fresh M&B trousers! They don't come in better condition than that from my experience. Oh, I think they wore these far more than just jumping. Don't be fooled by how terrible they are as clothing. That was very much the "in" thing back in the 1950s. Many European nations had totally unacceptably hot, heavy, and bulky uniforms around that time.

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    Re: Some of my clothing/ uniform items

    Post by Antarmike on Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:19 am

    CollectinSteve wrote:

    Nice minty fresh M&B trousers!  They don't come in better condition than that from my experience.  Oh, I think they wore these far more than just jumping.  Don't be fooled by how terrible they are as clothing.  That was very much the "in" thing back in the 1950s.  Many European nations had totally unacceptably hot, heavy, and bulky uniforms around that time.

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    Not sure the Moon and balls overtrousers are everyday wear. It is the lack of a fly (flies) or any way that the trooper could "Take a leak" without dropping his trousers that makes me think they were worn over "normal trousers" just for the purposes of making a jump.

    Not sur I would wear trousers where the only way I could have a piss was to drop them from my waist......

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