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    Post by Wolverine on Fri Jul 07, 2017 5:46 pm

    Does anyone know if this was a generally issued item, or something different?

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    Post by CollectinSteve on Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:35 am

    This is a rare variant produced in 1995 only, as far as I know. I have a test jacket (red thread) and a production jacket in this pattern. Supposedly uniform was intended for para/cdo since, at the time, they were the only ones authorized to wear camouflage uniforms as a general practice. However, a two pocket shirt, 6 pocket trousers, hat, and helmet cover were also produced alongside this jacket. My thinking is your jacket was part of a trial which eventually led to the general issue uniform in 1997. The shirt and trousers are pretty similar to the ripstop type, but the jacket is significantly different.

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    Post by Wolverine on Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:01 pm

    Thanks for the info Steve.

    I think I may have the helmet cover that goes with this.
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    Post by Wolverine on Tue Jul 11, 2017 5:44 pm

    Steve, could this cover be part of the same trial? It is not a standard composite helmet cover, but it is pretty clearly meant to fit the composite helmet. There are no labels. The cloth appears to be the same as the jacket.
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    Post by michelwijnand on Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:18 am

    Nice jacket!

    And the cover, is it of the thick or thin fabric, I recently came across one thta was much thinner material than my normal one
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    Post by Wolverine on Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:04 pm

    The fabric is heavy weight.
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    Post by CollectinSteve on Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:05 pm

    Wolverine wrote:Steve, could this cover be part of the same trial? It is not a standard composite helmet cover, but it is pretty clearly meant to fit the composite helmet. There are no labels. The cloth appears to be the same as the jacket.

    I do not know for certain, but I think so. I'll have to dig through my examples and see if mine has a tag on it. I'm pretty sure it does. I also have a hat in the same fabric weight if I can find it.

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    Post by Camo-collector1951 on Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:33 pm

    Just throwing in a picture of a pair of 1995 pants to match your jacket.1995 Seyntex jacket Dscn1126
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    Post by Wolverine on Wed Jul 26, 2017 8:52 pm

    Those look to be the lightweight material?
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    Post by CollectinSteve on Thu Jul 27, 2017 2:27 am

    Yup, that's definitely the poplin tropical type worn by peace keepers in Africa (for the most part). This type of cloth was in use from the early 1970s by Para/CDO (8 pockets), but didn't really see widespread use until the 1980s.

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    Post by Wolverine on Thu Jul 27, 2017 10:54 am

    The reverse of that tropical print/cloth is characterized generally by those little spots on the white background I think?
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    Post by CollectinSteve on Thu Jul 27, 2017 2:16 pm

    Yes, the poplin cloth is easily spotted by it's white reverse side. The spots are where little bits of dye bleeds through.

    As far as I know only four items were made in Jigsaw poplin cloth:

    1. 2 pocket shirt
    2. 6 pocket trousers
    3. 8 pocket trousers
    4. Brassard

    It can be difficult to tell these apart from other items because the Belgians have maintained very similar designs over many decades. Even the 8 pocket trousers came in a standard cloth variant. The easy tipoff is if you can see the backside of the cloth. White = poplin.

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    Post by fourtycoats on Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:55 pm

    There is one other I have found which is a sniper smock

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    Post by CollectinSteve on Thu Jul 27, 2017 6:11 pm

    The sniper smoke is a rare beast! I'm not sure it was limited to Para/CDO, but it might have been.

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