Some Recent modern Belgian finds

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    Re: Some Recent modern Belgian finds

    Post by michelwijnand on Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:56 pm

    Some more Belgian stuff again, straight from Belgium at the fair in Ciney.

    First an early 90's type Jigsaw body armor, an M71 buttpack with snap buttons, and 2 different M71 magpouches, 1 the 1st type
    with twistlock and the other I believe a 90's type with US Alice style buckle, it might be for the FNC, I'll compare the sizes of them both later.





    Then a simple armlet and 2 pairs of 1st Sergeant rankslides, the old type.




    A really cheap partial M71 webbing I couldn't pass up, I might make an early 90's loadout with the armor and webbing, maybe over some older
    Jigsaw summer suit like used in Rwanda etc.
    I'll replace the magazine pouches with another type for that though.





    And 2 types of 2-piece ISAF patches, 1 set in color and the other in Belgian Desert camo.


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    Re: Some Recent modern Belgian finds

    Post by Wolverine on Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:34 pm

    Great stuff - the pouch with the ALICE closure is for the FNC I think.

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    Re: Some Recent modern Belgian finds

    Post by michelwijnand on Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:43 pm

    Yeah it is actually longer
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    Re: Some Recent modern Belgian finds

    Post by CollectinSteve on Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:39 pm

    Great finds! That early Jigsaw frag vest is pretty rare, as I understand it.

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    Re: Some Recent modern Belgian finds

    Post by michelwijnand on Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:02 pm

    Thanks! It was the last find of the day and I was quite surprised nobody else picked it up by that time.
    Now if only I find the completely green type next time I'd have found 3 rare Belgian armors in a row in consecutive Ciney fairs Smile
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    Re: Some Recent modern Belgian finds

    Post by masive on Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:15 am

    I saw the body armor and thought to buy it. But I didn't, because I searched for a newer one.

    May I ask how much you pay for it?

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    Re: Some Recent modern Belgian finds

    Post by michelwijnand on Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:12 pm

    Sure, it was €40
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    Re: Some Recent modern Belgian finds

    Post by CollectinSteve on Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:00 pm

    That's a great price! I think I spent that much in postage to get mine from Belgium Wink

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    Re: Some Recent modern Belgian finds

    Post by Wolverine on Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:01 pm

    I had never seen the type without the collar before. Are they quite scarce?

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    Re: Some Recent modern Belgian finds

    Post by michelwijnand on Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:06 pm

    Yeah it's an early model, I've seen 4 or 5 I think, though I haven't been actively searching, but still

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    Re: Some Recent modern Belgian finds

    Post by michelwijnand on Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:30 am

    Found some more stuff.

    Some rankslides (ignore the British one, came with the same shipment). The top 2 are subdued and one-sided, the bottom 3 reverse from fullcolor to subdued.




    Then a 1992 dated pre-ripstop Jigsaw shirt, I also have trousers on the way dated even earlier.




    And from these items it's just the UN cap that was Belgian used.



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    Re: Some Recent modern Belgian finds

    Post by CollectinSteve on Sun Nov 11, 2018 4:57 pm

    Pre 1997 Jigsaw items in ripstop? I don't think I've ever seen anything that early. In fact, I'm sure I haven't. Are you sure about the date?

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    Re: Some Recent modern Belgian finds

    Post by michelwijnand on Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:46 pm

    I think you're reading too fast Wink
    It says 1992 dated pre-ripstop, so not ripstop but the older fabric
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    Re: Some Recent modern Belgian finds

    Post by Wolverine Yesterday at 10:29 am

    Nice UN cap - I have one like it also that is named and unit-marked. I was able to trace the name to a video posted on Youtube that was made during UNPROFOR.
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    Re: Some Recent modern Belgian finds

    Post by CollectinSteve Today at 11:20 am

    michelwijnand wrote:I think you're reading too fast Wink
    It says 1992 dated pre-ripstop, so not ripstop but the older fabric

    With my lack of sleep these days if I don't read fast I'll fall asleep while reading Wink Yes, that makes much more sense!

    The poplin hot weather uniform was manufactured in the 1980s through at least 1995. The cloth was used since the 1970s for the 8 pocket "Commando" trousers, but I don't recall if the two piece uniform started production that early or not.

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    Re: Some Recent modern Belgian finds

    Post by michelwijnand Today at 1:28 pm

    Haha ok so now it's clear Smile

    And I have no idea how early they started that either, the pants I have on the way is dated 1987, but I'm not exactly sure what cut it is as the pic was pretty fuzzy, though I'm inclined to think it could match the above shirt in type.

    The commando trousers, is that the type with the snap button cargo pockets?

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