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    Clark Cemetery

    Post by swag on Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:33 pm

    Visited the cemetery at Clark Field (formerly US Air Force Clark Air Base). I had visited Clark before but never stopped at the cemetery until this trip.















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    Post by AndrewA74 on Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:36 pm

    That's amazing. Did the Japanese do anything to the headstones I wonder.
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    Post by swag on Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:37 pm

    It was interesting walking around and seeing the different style headstones. There are some really interesting ones that told quite a story about the person. CSM Hollis' headstone was the most unique I have ever seen.












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    Re: Clark Cemetery

    Post by swag on Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:38 pm

    AndrewA74 wrote:That's amazing. Did the Japanese do anything to the headstones I wonder.
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    The cemetery was established in 1950.

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    Re: Clark Cemetery

    Post by AndrewA74 on Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:40 pm

    swag wrote:
    AndrewA74 wrote:That's amazing. Did the Japanese do anything to the headstones I wonder.
    Andrew

    The cemetery was established in 1950.
    The first couple of pictures says it was established 1908, or am I missing something?
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    Post by swag on Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:47 pm

    AndrewA74 wrote:The first couple of pictures says it was established 1908, or am I missing something?
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    From VFW Post 2485:

    We at VFW Post 2485 support and maintain the cemetery here at former Clark Air Base in the Philippines. This cemetery is the final resting place for some 2,168 fallen American soldiers including at least 639 Philippine scouts from the pre-WWII era. The Clark Air Base Cemetery was formed between 1947 and 1950 by moving the headstones/markers and remains from at least four other U.S. military cemeteries (Fort
    Stotsenberg 1 and 2, Fort McKinley and Sangley Point Naval Cemetery) to the new 20.365 acre, 12,000 plot cemetery located just inside the Main Gate of Clark Air Base. All WWII dead were moved to the American Cemetery, Manila.

    The cemetery contains the remains of U.S. Veterans from the USA, USN,
    USMC, USCG, USAF, Philippine Scouts (PS) and their dependents. Some, but not all, were veterans of the Spanish/American, Philippine Insurrection, WWI, WWII (died after the war), Korean, Vietnam, and Iraq Wars. The largest category interred is civilian, mostly U.S. and Filipino, all of whom worked for the U.S. Government, and their dependents. In addition, nationals from France, Spain, Canada, Japan, China, Vietnam and India are buried there.


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    Re: Clark Cemetery

    Post by AndrewA74 on Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:48 pm

    swag wrote:
    AndrewA74 wrote:The first couple of pictures says it was established 1908, or am I missing something?
    Andrew


    We at VFW Post 2485 support

    and maintain the cemetery here at former Clark Air Base in the Philippines.
    This cemetery is the final resting place for some 2,168 fallen American

    soldiers including at least 639 Philippine scouts from the pre-WWII

    era.
    The Clark Air Base Cemetery

    was formed between 1947 and 1950 by moving the headstones/markers

    and remains from at least four other U.S. military cemeteries (Fort

    Stotsenberg 1 and 2, Fort McKinley and Sangley Point Naval Cemetery)

    to the new 20.365 acre, 12,000 plot cemetery located just inside the

    Main Gate of Clark Air Base. All WWII dead were moved to the

    American Cemetery, Manila.




    The

    cemetery contains the remains of U.S. Veterans from the USA, USN,

    USMC, USCG, USAF, Philippine Scouts (PS) and their dependents. Some, but not all, were veterans of the Spanish/American, Philippine

    Insurrection, WWI, WWII (died after the war), Korean, Vietnam,
    and Iraq Wars.

    The largest category interred is civilian, mostly U.S. and

    Filipino, all of whom worked for the U.S. Government, and their dependents. In addition, nationals from France,

    Spain, Canada, Japan, China, Vietnam and India are buried there.
    Yes, but according to the monument, it clearly states 1908 right???
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    Post by swag on Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:51 pm

    AndrewA74 wrote:Yes, but according to the monument, it clearly states 1908 right???
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    Argue with the monument AndrewA74, I gave you an answer yet you still wish to "contest" it.

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    Re: Clark Cemetery

    Post by AndrewA74 on Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:57 pm

    swag wrote:
    AndrewA74 wrote:Yes, but according to the monument, it clearly states 1908 right???
    Andrew

    Argue with the monument AndrewA74, I gave you an answer yet you still wish to "contest" it.
    I'm sorry I question things when evidence conflicts, I believe it's called investigating.
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    Re: Clark Cemetery

    Post by bond007a1 on Fri Jul 17, 2009 5:11 pm

    Andrew...I think I understand it...the cemetery in 1950 was created...they moved or combined 4 other cemeteries into the Clark one...therefore the monument with the 1908 was previously on another one of the 4 places and was moved to Clark Cemetery in or after 1947...

    Steven

    PS..the Japanese probably would not have done stuff to the early pre WW2 stones because most people respect the dead whether friend or foe....


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    Re: Clark Cemetery

    Post by panzerwerk on Fri Jul 17, 2009 5:14 pm

    too answer the question And I do not have facts , but the Japanese tend to be very superstitious especially so when it comes to the dead , so I don't think they would have gone around intentionally messing with graves or grave markers , However I have no facts to back this up, just surmising , and there are always a few bad apples doing bad things in any Army so who knows .

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    Post by panzerwerk on Fri Jul 17, 2009 5:15 pm

    beat me to it Bond

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    Post by bond007a1 on Fri Jul 17, 2009 5:15 pm

    GREAT minds think alike...lol


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    Re: Clark Cemetery

    Post by swag on Fri Jul 17, 2009 5:57 pm

    AndrewA74 wrote:I'm sorry I question things when evidence conflicts, I believe it's called investigating.
    Andrew

    There is nothing wrong with questioning something when contradictory evidence is present. However, investigating also involves something called research. If you had done a little of the latter you could have answered some of your questions, instead you chose to just sit at your computer and expect someone else to provide you with all the answers. That is not investigating or researching.
    I didn't know the answer to your question so I actually did some investigating and researching, that is how I found the VFW's webpage with the answers you sought. Since I am satisfied with the history of Clark Cemetery that they present (and feel no further need to investigate or research), why don't you send an email to them with your questions regarding the contradictory plaques/monuments (which I'm sure the answer is simply "the monuments were moved there from...") Once you complete that then you can report back that you have completed your investigation and share your findings. I eagerly await any information you can actually share, rather than read your usual non-informative posts.


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