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    San Marco and COMBUSIN camouflage

    Post by vonstuck on Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:37 am

    San Marco and COMBUSIN camouflage


    left to right: tropical, mountain, Somalia, 2000 and mediterranea

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    Re: San Marco and COMBUSIN camouflage

    Post by Camo_fiend on Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:43 am

    Wow, never knew there were so many variants of this pattern. Very cool!
    Thanks for sharing!


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    Re: San Marco and COMBUSIN camouflage

    Post by panzerwerk on Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:11 pm

    Nice comparison shot !!!!
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    Re: San Marco and COMBUSIN camouflage

    Post by Philip on Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:27 pm

    Great collection!

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    Re: San Marco and COMBUSIN camouflage

    Post by CollectinSteve on Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:13 pm

    Yup, there is quite a variety. However, it's unclear how much of the variety is simple production variations and how much of it is deliberate. Fading can also confuse things.

    Personally, I think there are at least 2 or perhaps 3 definite, deliberate color changes.

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    Re: San Marco and COMBUSIN camouflage

    Post by Camo_fiend on Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:50 pm

    To be honest, I think I like this pattern better than the Vegetata camouflage. Cool

    Does anyone have a set of that really cool-looking yellowish desert camo the Italians were wearing when the War on Terror first started? I believe it has been called "Somali pattern" camo, due to its use there, if I'm not mistaken...


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    Re: San Marco and COMBUSIN camouflage

    Post by CollectinSteve on Thu Apr 08, 2010 12:23 am

    BSM wore an orangish colored spray camo at the beginning of OIF. It was a very short lived pattern and I am fortunate to have one. What I am unfortunate to have missed out on several times is the predecessor. That one is identical to the standard BSM/COMSUBIN spray camo pattern and uniform cut but in desert tans and browns. Very rare, very expensive if found.

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    Re: San Marco and COMBUSIN camouflage

    Post by vonstuck on Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:09 am

    Hello
    It really existing this 5 pattern + 2002 pattern that i have not
    On my website i have put pictures of internal pocket for see colors near original
    And 2 pictures by pattern showing detail on same place
    Somalia and mountain pattern have the same drawing
    Some small difference in the drawing between the other pattern
    I will take a picture of another place for compare all pattern
    Generaly COMBUSIN modify their garments
    My jacket have low pocket removed and the hight pocket moved
    I have also 2 variant desert pattern, I need take pictures
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    Re: San Marco and COMBUSIN camouflage

    Post by vonstuck on Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:19 pm





    About the following set, I guess it is a comercial/fake













    The set of Danilo has same colors as show these pictures but the cut of the garment look at my second set
    See the pocket on the arms
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    Re: San Marco and COMBUSIN camouflage

    Post by CollectinSteve on Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:59 pm

    Ah... Giles of course has the first BSM desert set that I want, want, want! Oh, wait a minute... need, need, need Wink

    Giles, you are also fortunate to have the orange desert uniform. I have this one too. I also have a temperate version in a slightly different cut, ripstop fabric, and a much denser camouflage pattern. I think the Marine in your second picture, opposite from the sniper in desert colors, is wearing this uniform.

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    Re: San Marco and COMBUSIN camouflage

    Post by Camo_fiend on Wed Aug 11, 2010 6:45 pm

    That first desert set Gilles posted is really interesting looking! it almost looks like a DPM/Auscam DPDU hybrid or something... very cool!


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    Re: San Marco and COMBUSIN camouflage

    Post by Philip on Sun Aug 15, 2010 11:20 am

    Very very nice camouflage. I envy all you guys...

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    Re: San Marco and COMBUSIN camouflage

    Post by CollectinSteve on Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:03 am

    Here is a picture of the mid 2000s BSM camo jacket.

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    Re: San Marco and COMBUSIN camouflage

    Post by vonstuck on Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:05 pm



    mountain; mediterranean
    COMBUSIN pattern 2000; tropical

    See my website for another picture
    http://vonstuckcamouflage.free.fr/italy.php

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    Re: San Marco and COMBUSIN camouflage

    Post by Crna Strela on Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:49 pm

    Vonstuck, the first desert set you have should have been produced in a small number of pieces for San Marco Battalion (not COMSUBIN) during the war in Somalia, in 1994/1995.
    It's an interesting camo, I would like to have one as well.
    The other one isn't commercial, it has been issued by COMSUBIN before the last actual one (I'm not sure, but I heard in the past for the first Gulf war), that actually it isn't the one in the real photo; in fact this italian military doesn't wear this set, but another one, the so called "pink" version.
    Anyway, the vertical zip + 2 chest pocket + short collar are the "typical" characteristics of COMSUBIN camouflage made by an important fabric located in Tuscania.
    They made also other sets, many prototypes etc...
    Here pictures of the pink version:







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    Re: San Marco and COMBUSIN camouflage

    Post by vonstuck on Mon Sep 27, 2010 5:19 pm

    Hello
    Thank you for the information
    I modify my website for the combusin orange pattern
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    Re: San Marco and COMBUSIN camouflage

    Post by drmatz on Fri Oct 01, 2010 12:26 pm

    here is my uniform.

    I was told that this set was not officially issued to troops, but they were all private purchases...
    Is a beautiful pattern either way.

    Gilles you have some awesome BSM uniforms cheers








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    Re: San Marco and COMBUSIN camouflage

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    Re: San Marco and COMBUSIN camouflage

    Post by CollectinSteve on Wed Dec 08, 2010 4:26 am

    Another experimental BSM/COMSUBIN uniform. This one of mine is undated, but the following picture is from 2006 and is consistent with other trial uniforms. The fabric appears to be the same as used in the previous uniforms, not different like the type seen in my other post above.



    http://www.nato.int/multi/photos/2006/m060404a.htm

    Check the last entry in the above link for the picture. It's too large to post here.

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    Re: San Marco and COMBUSIN camouflage

    Post by Crna Strela on Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:44 am

    I have also a nice prototype made for San Marco.
    It's probably from the early '90s. Fabric is the same of the issued one. It has also inner jacket for winter.



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    Re: San Marco and COMBUSIN camouflage

    Post by CollectinSteve on Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:11 am

    NICE!! That is only the second set of that I have ever seen. I lost out on the bidding of the first one because it was a time when I didn't have much money and, obviously, many people wanted it.

    As a camouflage, I think it was correct to reject that pattern. Too much black.

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    Re: San Marco and COMBUSIN camouflage

    Post by Crna Strela on Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:57 am

    Thanks Steve.
    Actually I got mine from an italian guy Smile Where had you seen it for sale? On ebay?
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    Re: San Marco and COMBUSIN camouflage

    Post by vonstuck on Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:13 pm





    Compare with the orange pattern

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    Re: San Marco and COMBUSIN camouflage

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    Old San Marco pattern

    Post by vonstuck on Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:26 am

    Old San Marco pattern




















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