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    Border with Mexico

    Post by Lopez311 on Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:28 pm


    I don’t want to bring political issues to the forum but at a time that securing the border is creating so much controversy I want to share these pictures.
    These are some items taken from drug mules and illegal aliens crossing at the Arizona border. Many of them are in the Mexican Military, and some were armed at the time of encounter.

    Mexican Naval Infantry ID card



    Mexican Military dogtag


    Mexican military Service record (kind of a DD-214)



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    Re: Border with Mexico

    Post by nkomo on Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:02 pm

    DAMN!!! That is interesting. Question...I had always heard rumors that there were Cubans (FAR) soldiers that did training down in the border area of Mexico and US. Is there any truth to this?

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    Re: Border with Mexico

    Post by Lopez311 on Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:20 pm

    I never heard of Cubans soldiers in Mexico and I did over 10 years in the Texas/ Mexico border as a Border Patrol agent. I know about Guatemalan Kaibiles been hired by the cartels to escort the drug loads into the US and for training purposes but not Cubans.
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    Post by nkomo on Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:23 pm

    Lopez311 wrote:I never heard of Cubans soldiers in Mexico and I did over 10 years in the Texas/ Mexico border as a Border Patrol agent. I know about Guatemalan Kaibiles been hired by the cartels to escort the drug loads into the US and for training purposes but not Cubans.
    Ok. Thanks for the information.


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    Post by misanthropic_gods on Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:44 pm

    Very cool..its amazing what someone will do for some cash eh?
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    Re: Border with Mexico

    Post by AndrewA74 on Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:26 pm

    Very interesting items. If the soldier is active duty, can he be arrested for desertion in Mexico?
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    Post by Lopez311 on Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:00 pm

    AndrewA74 wrote:Very interesting items. If the soldier is active duty, can he be arrested for desertion in Mexico?
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    Since President Calderon declared war on Narco-traffic hundreds of Mexican soldiers have deserted to join the Cartels looking for better pay . Even if they are charged with desertion the government doesn’t have the resources to go after them. Also corruption is a big problem, in many occasions it is their own chain of command who send them across with the drugs.
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    Re: Border with Mexico

    Post by Mercenary25 on Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:13 pm

    You gonna love Mexicans because they would do anything for money.

    Don't get me wrong, I used to work with Mexicans in farm during the summer job and they outworked me. Laughing


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    Re: Border with Mexico

    Post by Lopez311 on Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:59 pm

    Another item from the Mexican Border

    Mexican soldier ID card

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    Post by fdeltoro on Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:45 pm

    Not all Mexicans are like that, and in case a soldier is found guilty of working with organized crime, the sentence to jail ismore than double vs. an ordinary citizen. Also,lets not forget the case where US Marines smuggled cocaine through the sea into a Naval Base of San Diego....
    To effectively fight transnational DTO's, all countries involved must come with new strategies and tactics to cunter the phenomenon, or do you really think that corruption is an exclusive problem of Mexico? I'm not trying to blame anybody, but you need support of authorities to smuggle the enormous amounts of illegal drugs into the US, which come from Canada, Mexico or overseas.
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    Post by CollectinSteve on Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:48 pm

    Supply requires demand, but demand also requires a supply. It's a vicious circle, especially when we're talking about drugs. Anybody who thinks the drug violence is purely a matter of enforcement really doesn't know much.

    The worst example, that I know of, where Mexican military/police turned traitors to their nation are Los Zetas. But then again, there is no military in the world (including the US military) that has a perfect record in this regard. It would be completely unfair to single Mexico out for having some of its worst citizens trained by its military on how to be worse than they ever could have been on their own.

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    Post by fdeltoro on Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:56 pm

    Personally I think it´s very sad, but the truth is that the problem exists and both or governments need to take the appropriate steps to counter it. As far as I'm concerned, I will continue to support law enforcement and the Mexican Armed Forces in the counternarcotic fight.
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    Re: Border with Mexico

    Post by CollectinSteve on Tue Jan 04, 2011 1:42 am

    Most people in Mexico and the US think the same. Unfortunately, it doesn't take too many people to cause misery for millions. Don't give up the fight... it's too important to let go of. I congratulate you on choosing to stand up for what is right.

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    Re: Border with Mexico

    Post by AK101 on Tue Jan 04, 2011 3:25 am

    Interesting times...

    I passed on providing some training to Mexican LEOs (St Dept/ITAR appvd) due do concerns I had about how the skill sets would be used down the road. Hard to keep the players straight.

    Great pics and thanks for sharing, there is a great pic out there in relation to a US Citizen that was essentially kidnapped on his own property in the 80's by a squad of Mex Mil. They eventully surrendeded to BPA's which disarmed them and took some great pics. FAL rifles, old school uniforms etc.. I will try to dig it up.
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    Re: Border with Mexico

    Post by AK101 on Tue Jan 04, 2011 3:27 am

    CollectinSteve wrote: Don't give up the fight... it's too important to let go of. I congratulate you on choosing to stand up for what is right.


    I have to agree, I hope you guys can save your country from the narcos. Stay safe.

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