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    Russian "SMK' camouflage

    Post by filupe on Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:47 am





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    Re: Russian "SMK' camouflage

    Post by panzerwerk on Fri Apr 02, 2010 8:13 pm

    My set ,which is commercial , yours looks issue !


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    Re: Russian "SMK' camouflage

    Post by Sgt P. on Fri Apr 30, 2010 7:38 pm

    Filupe,
    Real nice winter lined SMK urban set. I had the summer special model and Danilo and Roan both got those in trades. Mine was commercial as many of the SMK sets were. Good to see photos of a winter set. I brought back 3 winter sets of differant patterns. The shipping cost me more than the winter sets! Bruce
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    Re: Russian "SMK' camouflage

    Post by CollectinSteve on Sat May 01, 2010 5:18 pm

    I love this pattern, but man... that nylon is about as waterproof as tissue paper facing a tsunami!

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    Re: Russian "SMK' camouflage

    Post by Crna Strela on Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:08 pm

    SMK is one of my favourite pattern.
    There have been 3 different versions, each made by different producers.
    The "real" SMK was made in the 1992 for MVD troops and also (in other models) for civilians. GRAN produced these camouflage, but it wasn't probably the only one.
    The spots were more defined and "sharp" than the spots in the other versions, like the Filupe's and Panzerwerk's ones; their SMK sometimes is called also "gorod".
    The "gorod" version should have been made by NPO-SM, a russian producer.
    There exist also another one, based by the "gorod" one, made by SPLAV, a bit darker.
    Here there's my urban GRAN suit, civilian version...(you could notice, that GRAN spots are vertically oriented, while the gorod's ones horizontally):




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    Re: Russian "SMK' camouflage

    Post by escammo on Sat Jan 15, 2011 6:47 pm

    Here is a photo of the leather "Gran" tag sewn inside the jacket of the SMK. This uniform was purchased from Mike Powlen. Here is what Powlen wrote about the Gran SMK;
    "The Urban SMK suit is (was ..no longer produced) manufactured by a company called Gran....and has their label.
    They subcontracted suits for Laboratory of special equipment and technology (Laboratoria spetsial' nykh materialov i tekhnologi) in St. Petersburg who issued these suits to various OMON and Vitiaz units.
    Special Materials has (had..no longer produced) the same pattern suits as well as several other Material Companies in Russia. All were issued to OMON, Vitaz and Alpha units ...along with several other Ministry of Interior Special Operations troops."



    It is my understanding that the early SMK's had black or gray linings. The civilian versions of the uniforms had flannel linings like the hat shown below.



    There are some SMK uniforms that are unlined, however.
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    SMK Urban vest with a Special Materials Manufacturing tag

    Post by escammo on Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:39 am

    Here is an SMK Urban vest that has a Special Materials Manufacturing tag.



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    Re: Russian "SMK' camouflage

    Post by CollectinSteve on Mon May 09, 2011 10:34 pm

    I recently acquired this strange, ridged case. As you can see it unfolds. My guess is medical supplies as the interior doesn't appear strong enough things that are heavy or metal based.

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    Re: Russian "SMK' camouflage

    Post by backpacker416 on Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:25 pm

    I dont really understand, is there a solid way to tell if one is issue or a civilian copy?
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    Re: Russian "SMK' camouflage

    Post by CollectinSteve on Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:43 pm

    With Russian gear, especially during the 1990s, the line between official and commercial is as clearly defined as a jelly fish in a blender. I've basically adopted an attitude that if it has a military look to it then someone probably wore while in service. But that's just me not having the energy or time to figure out the real story Very Happy

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    Re: Russian "SMK' camouflage

    Post by backpacker416 on Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:27 pm

    CollectinSteve wrote:With Russian gear, especially during the 1990s, the line between official and commercial is as clearly defined as a jelly fish in a blender. I've basically adopted an attitude that if it has a military look to it then someone probably wore while in service. But that's just me not having the energy or time to figure out the real story Very Happy

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    LOL! I understand. Smile
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    Re: Russian "SMK' camouflage

    Post by revolver pablo on Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:06 am

    hi guys! someone remind me the correct russian name of smk?
    i remind Odan (Одан) but i'm not sure.
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    Re: Russian "SMK' camouflage

    Post by drmatz on Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:32 pm

    here's my gorod set


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    Re: Russian "SMK' camouflage

    Post by revolver pablo on Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:41 pm

    i have one splav gorod-t set too. Nice pattern.
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    Re: Russian "SMK' camouflage

    Post by filupe on Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:50 pm

    One of my latest receipts ... its mis-placement in the wrong category meant that I snapped it up for less than $20!





    I suspect it is probably commercial (purple twill lining inside the zippered pockets) but it seems to nicely match the other SMK garments I have.
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    Re: Russian "SMK' camouflage

    Post by Crna Strela on Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:16 pm

    Hey Filupe...well, it's not so easy actually to understand if it's commercial or not.
    It looks to me a sort of "copy" of another vest made by NPO-SM in the '90s, which was very close to this one.
    There are some things here that generally you don't find on russian hunting/commercial camo items, like the strange reinforcements on the shoulders (..probably for rifle sling), or even the belt loops etc..
    But yes, there's something unusual there that makes it looking not military.
    Where have you found it?
    Here there's the model I mean, very similar to yours:




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    Re: Russian "SMK' camouflage

    Post by filupe on Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:22 am

    The other indicator (to me) that it's not military is the pocket configuration i.e. lack of AK magazine pockets. It came out of Manions online auctions - placed in the 'US' category!
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    Re: Russian "SMK' camouflage

    Post by shoru on Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:17 am

    Hey Guys,
    I just found this forum and thought I could share some things of my collection, I'm currently at work and will post some more pictures when I'm back home.
    Some names here sound familiar to me. Smile








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    Re: Russian "SMK' camouflage

    Post by Crna Strela on Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:42 am

    shoru wrote:Hey Guys,.
    Some names here sound familiar to me. Smile


    Hello my friend! Finally we have even you here Smile
    Thanks for share your stuff (..we are waiting for some photos of all your rare items around the forum!).


    If possible I would like to change my previous words that I wrote here in the past, as my knowledge about SMK stuff is now changed and a little bit bigger.
    I had written that GRAM was the main producer of this nice pattern, and NPO-SM and Splav were only secondary...
    Actually it wasn't like that, I was wrong.
    GRAM produced only civilian SMK and NPO-SM produced SMK equipment for russian Army, in various versions.
    There were many different versions, almost all of them for winter season.
    I will post here some photos that show the various models...
    Sorry for my past mistake! Razz
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    Re: Russian "SMK' camouflage

    Post by shoru on Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:56 am

    Hey Filipo!
    Sure, I will post some pictures when I'm home and have access to my HDD. Smile

    Personally I know of 3 different versions of the woodland-ish SMK (of course not that rare VSR-like color scheme!).

    Two of them are visible in my previously posted pictures, I call them blurred-edge versions.
    The body armor cover has deeper colors, also the brown colors are a bit more intensive.
    The SMK Plash and SMK rain poncho have the "common" blurred edge pattern which is visible on some war pictures.

    At home I have another 2 vests, one SMK tunic and one (probably commercial) Ammo vest.
    Both are in the sharp-edged pattern, which imho has been produced by NPO-SM.

    Did Splav only do Urban SMK? I've never seen a woodland-ish SMK item made by Splav.


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    Re: Russian "SMK' camouflage

    Post by Crna Strela on Mon Oct 17, 2011 7:03 am

    Well, the versions I meant were all into NPO-SM production.
    I've "studied" many pictures from the '90s and from the war in Chechnya and I concluded that at least 3 or 4 models existed, different by hood (removable or not), pants, jacket cut, etc....
    I still trying to understand if I have identified all the models...but I'm quite sure that I didn't..
    About Splav...I guess it makes/made a "gorod/SMK" camouflage, similar to the blurred-edge pattern.
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    Re: Russian "SMK' camouflage

    Post by shoru on Mon Oct 17, 2011 7:18 am

    I used to have ac picture showing one (civil?) person posing in the snow-covered mountains while wearing a woodland SMK anorak with a fancy hoodie-like stomach pocket.
    So it seems like you have to do some more research to cover all the variants out there. Razz
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    Re: Russian "SMK' camouflage

    Post by Crna Strela on Mon Oct 17, 2011 7:27 am

    Do you mean this photo here? http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/3606/3414022.jpg
    I don't know if it's a civilian o military jacket.
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    Re: Russian "SMK' camouflage

    Post by shoru on Mon Oct 17, 2011 7:41 am

    Damn Filipo, you have every picture I've seen yet saved on your hard disk!

    To me it looks like a civilian product, mainly because of the big pocket on the front.

    But what is the right guy wearing? Very Happy
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    Re: Russian "SMK' camouflage

    Post by shoru on Wed Oct 19, 2011 3:21 pm

    As these haven't been posted yet, I'm contributing two pictures of SMK vests I own.



    (I already have a replacement part for the mismatched shoulder pad! Smile )



    Both have the sharp-edged SMK pattern, as probably seen on NPO-SM items (the second vest is made by NPO-SM).


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