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    Comparison between Early CADPAT-TW and current issue

    misanthropic_gods
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    Post by misanthropic_gods Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:44 am

    Thought you guys might be a bit interested in this...I just got my hands on a 2007 dated CADPAT boonie that I compared to my 2002 dated Helmet cover. The CADPAT pattern was first issued in 2002 and this is presumably the first pattern. It looks quite different up close

    This is comparing the neck flap of both the boonie and the helmet cover, these are both in near mint condition and havent faded at all.

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    Mk1rceme
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    Post by Mk1rceme Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:21 am

    Quite the difference. I hear they had a hard time getting the colors not to bleed back then.
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    Post by misanthropic_gods Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:30 am

    Oh yeah, they had a hell of a time...and the early stuff was WAY better than the prototypes. The Canadian textile machines just couldnt handle the hard lines.

    Here is a first gen sample from the hyperstealth site, it is horrid

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    Post by cobalt545 Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:29 am

    The first CADPAT issued item I ever received was the helmet cover on the kevlar helmet I was issued. My battalion was issued these in 1997. I still have this cover on my helmet today and it isn't faded too badly. We still had the OD green combat uniforms until early 2000.

    We saw CADPAT uniforms throughout the brigade being trialed and they seemed to become faded pretty quickly. Some were almost white! The materials were different from one trial batch to the next. Some were very high in cotton content while others were high in nylon content.

    By the time the rest of us in the brigade were issued our first CADPAT uniforms they had settled on what seemed to be a 50/50 mix of cotton and nylon. Unfortunately, the first issue we received were really poor quality uniforms. The seams were fraying quickly and the colour started to fade really badly. I had two shirts that frayed so badly that the seams on my sleeves came apart and you could see the front of my shoulders. After a year most of my uniforms were unserviceable.

    The CADPAT uniforms now are a lot better. They are darker than the original clothing but when they fade they don't turn white! They are a lot harder wearing as well. They don't fall apart at the seams and rips and tears don't cause the material to fray and unravel.
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    Post by CollectinSteve Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:33 pm

    There was a huge batch of cloth, produced by a Quebec company, that was rejected due to quality problems. These were turned into commercial uniforms under the name Frontenac. Their first batch of uniforms was too close to the Canadian style so the government obligated them to produce stuff in BDU style thereafter. The primary quality problem was the ink wasn't evenly applied, especially for the black. I spotted this the second I had one in my hands and I didn't know a thing about it at the time, so it's pretty obvious.

    It was rumored that the first test batches made for trials were produced in Pakistan. As Colbalt says, they weren't very good and they faded very quickly. But it bought time for the Canadian manufacturers to get the technology to make the cloth themselves. The first issue, which has white labels, faded fairly quickly but not as bad as the Pakistani stuff.

    I've got a 1997 dated Pakistani made ARID CADPAT set that I'm convinced is a genuine trials item. But I have unfortunately not been able to confirm this. I also have used uniforms from the first production batch that was issued to the 22nd Rgt, which was the first to wear them overseas (Bosnia). I've got some later produced stuff, and as Cobalt said, the quality is noticeably better.

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