French 50s shelter half?

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    French 50s shelter half?

    Post by 5224 on Sun Mar 13, 2011 2:25 pm

    Got this as an "extra" item in a trade.
    The seller said it were an French shelter half from the 1950s, I have tried to find some more information but without result. It does look like the French lizard camo, but is it not to bright with the khaki?
    http://www.kamouflage.net/camouflage/00104.php

    There's a faded stamp that seem to be in French, and also the buttons have text in French. Is this maybe from one of the former colony's in Africa? Sorry if I'm asking stupid questions, this might be obvious things but I'm really not at home in French camo.

    The shelter half:



    A sample of the camo:



    The stamp and the buttons:



    Thanks in advance!

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    Re: French 50s shelter half?

    Post by panzerwerk on Sun Mar 13, 2011 3:44 pm

    Yup pretty standard French shelter quarter , looks nice !! I have a couple of them , different dates ,but all 50's vintage .

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    Re: French 50s shelter half?

    Post by 5224 on Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:01 pm

    Great! Do you know how come they put so much khaki in it? Specifically developed and used in the colony's or just a random thing?

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    Re: French 50s shelter half?

    Post by panzerwerk on Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:34 pm

    No idea , but mine are the same .

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    Re: French 50s shelter half?

    Post by zvez on Sun Mar 13, 2011 9:35 pm

    In the 80s they were selling these like mad for next to nothing, $5 or $10. I ended up using mine as a shop cover for painting Wink

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    Re: French 50s shelter half?

    Post by drmatz on Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:11 pm

    i think they were originally issue to french algerian troops, that's way so much "khaki" on it.
    mine has same colors and also from the 50's

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    Re: French 50s shelter half?

    Post by CollectinSteve on Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:16 pm

    There are two types, several variants. The first has sewn on buttons and is, I think, a year older than the type with pressed buttons. The camouflage patterns loosely fall into "sparse" and "dense" varieties. The shapes are not all identical either.

    The one pictured here is sewn button, dense pattern.

    I just checked some pics I have handy (my actual shelter quarters are buried) and the pressed button type is from 1952, so I think the sewn on button type is from 1951 or perhaps earlier.

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    Re: French 50s shelter half?

    Post by CollectinSteve on Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:35 pm

    Here are two pics of dense and sparse types:





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    Re: French 50s shelter half?

    Post by 5224 on Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:26 am

    Great information from you all, thanks!

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    Re: French 50s shelter half?

    Post by vonstuck on Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:22 pm

    Hello
    The first tent of Steve is in D pattern, the most common: http://vonstuckcamouflage.free.fr/france.php
    The second, I don't know what is the pattern, rare item!
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    Re: French 50s shelter half?

    Post by CollectinSteve on Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:27 pm

    Thanks Gilles! I am happy to have a rare item, of course Smile I will try and dig mine out to see if there is a stamp.

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    Re: French 50s shelter half?

    Post by vonstuck on Sat Oct 29, 2011 4:41 pm




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    Re: French 50s shelter half?

    Post by CollectinSteve on Sun Oct 30, 2011 6:34 pm

    Whoa!! Gilles, is that French made? Obviously it is from captured cloth. I am surprised the French would use it due to the hatred of the SS.

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    Re: French 50s shelter half?

    Post by Philip on Sun Oct 30, 2011 7:33 pm

    Pretty interesting item!


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    Re: French 50s shelter half?

    Post by vonstuck on Tue Nov 01, 2011 2:38 pm











    The pattern of the first tent is a variant of the German WWII pattern of my Zeltbahn splinter 1

    The pattern of the second tent is identical of the German WWII pattern of my Zeltbahn splinter 4

    See: http://iacmc.forumotion.com/t4508-zeltbahn-splinter

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    Re: French 50s shelter half?

    Post by vonstuck on Sat Nov 05, 2011 8:14 am

    CollectinSteve wrote:Whoa!! Gilles, is that French made? Obviously it is from captured cloth. I am surprised the French would use it due to the hatred of the SS.

    Steve

    I think these tents was build in Germany for French army just at the end of the war
    After French army adopt the lizard pattern
    About that say Steve, I think that 90% of French people had never hear of the name of waffen SS before the end of the war
    And the occupation of the France is not the occupation of Poland or Russia
    During the German occupation, the exactions against the Frensh civil are from French police and militia, under control of the gestapo
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    Re: French 50s shelter half?

    Post by CollectinSteve on Sun Nov 06, 2011 1:12 am

    Hi Gilles,

    Yes, for sure Germany made many things in the 1940s and 1950s as part of war reparations. So this makes sense!

    As for SS, I was thinking of Oradour-sur-Glane. I thought that was very well known within France. But yes, you are correct. Most of the horrors seen in France were not done by soldiers in camouflage clothing.

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    Re: French 50s shelter half?

    Post by vonstuck on Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:46 pm


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    Re: French 50s shelter half?

    Post by vonstuck on Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:46 pm





    Not in my collection
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