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    Swaziland

    Post by vonstuck on Thu May 12, 2011 2:14 am

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    Re: Swaziland

    Post by CollectinSteve on Thu May 12, 2011 2:54 am

    You know, before I clicked on this thread I thought:

    Gilles + Swaziland = Purple Slangvel

    I am glad to see Gilles did not disappoint me Very Happy

    A beautiful bunch of pieces!! I wish I could get rank slipons for my shirt. I really wish I had the Slangvel.

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    Re: Swaziland

    Post by CollectinSteve on Thu May 12, 2011 3:31 am

    I have the same basic set as Gilles, but I also have this set. I was told it is also Swaziland Royal Guard. It is not in the same cut, though, and the tags have been sliced out. So I'm skeptical of what I was told. Can anybody confirm?

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    Re: Swaziland

    Post by vonstuck on Thu May 12, 2011 4:46 pm

    About the airborne wing
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    Re: Swaziland

    Post by mcoleman762 on Thu May 12, 2011 9:59 pm

    Nice post Gilles! So that's where that set went....

    Steve, your posted set is most likely commercial. Here's what I've been able to piece together, as well as a few of my examples.

    There are actually two types of purple DPM attributed to Swaziland. There is the purple/bright blue pattern of the Royal Guard (Gilles set), and then a purple/dark blue type purportedly used by the Swaziland police. I've never seen a photo of either pattern in use, so it's hard to say. The only photos I've seen of Swaziland police show them wearing all blue uniforms. Here's examples of the "police" issue purple/dark blue DPM:





    As you can see, the bush jacket is cut just like SAP bush jackets, and just like Gilles' Royal Guard bush jacket. In regards to the pattern, note the Royal Guard pattern has a light blue base color, whereas this "police" pattern has a light gray color. The blue in the Royal Guard pattern is brighter as well. Also note that the police pattern has quite a bit of the dots associated with the black shapes in the pattern. The Royal Guard pattern has them to some extent, but the patterns are not the same.

    Now, to muddy the waters even further, there is another police variant, which is what Steve has posted. This pattern has a dark ash base color instead of the light gray, and the pattern has a much darker look to it. I suspect most of these are commercial, as Camo Joe has offered this pattern for at least the last ten years. Check it out:

    http://www.camojoe.co.za/

    Go to "clothing" and then check out the "night camo". The question then becomes, has the Swaziland police procured any of the Camo Joe uniforms for their use? I have no idea. But, I would suspect that most of this pattern in collector hands is in fact commercial. Not that I'm totally convinced of my above posted sets either, but they are clearly different. Something else that doesn't sit well with me is that none of these "police" items are properly marked. They all just have size tags. Swaziland Defense Force items are usually very well marked, and note the tag in Gilles' Royal Guard set. I know lots of folks assume that African countries don't properly label their uniforms, but that's generally not the case.

    Anyway, here's a couple of the Camo Joe pattern items, to include a shirt that came with my items posted above. Another wrench in the works is the sergeants rank brassards, which seem quite genuine to me.







    Well, that's all I have on the Swaziland purple DPM patterns. As you can see, absolutely nothing definitive.

    Cheers,

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    Re: Swaziland

    Post by mcoleman762 on Thu May 12, 2011 10:03 pm

    While I'm at it, here's a Swaziland Defence Force DPM jacket.





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    Re: Swaziland

    Post by CollectinSteve on Thu May 12, 2011 11:57 pm

    Nice pics Mike! Also good to know about the differences between police and guard. Subtle.

    Here's how I think the info relates to my mystery uniform:

    1. Mine is MUCH darker than either of the patterns shown. It also appears darker than what Camel Joe is selling. But what I have might just be an older version.

    2. Mine did have manufacture's tags, hanging form the inside seam below the neck seam and behind the size tag (like Mike's last picture). Of course, people LOVE to cut out those Camel Joe tags to fake collectors.

    My conclusion is, as expected, that I have a commercial set of some sort. Most likely Camel Joe. There's too many red flags on both the shirt and trousers. Possibly they were worn by police forces as part of a large, or individual, purchase program... but I'm going to assume not.

    Looks like I have another Camel Joe set up for sale Smile

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    Re: Swaziland

    Post by Camo_fiend on Fri May 13, 2011 1:06 am

    Nice patterns... more types of DPM for me to hunt down, yay! cheers


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    Re: Swaziland

    Post by koalorka on Thu Jan 09, 2014 3:54 pm

    That Slangvel is quite stunning with the golden insignia. Amazing how any of this stuff was made available to the outside world.

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