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    Re: Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

    Post by masive on Mon Aug 07, 2017 3:01 am

    Antarmike wrote:I have one in same colour  It is stamped FN/ZM VOLH 65,  so it is Navy but is in this blue/grey.




    Such a small pack I have too. It is in army colour, I mean a Type of Green colour, and not in navy blue. It has FN-ZM markings.
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    Re: Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

    Post by Wolverine on Mon Aug 07, 2017 9:31 pm

    I have an FN-ZM small pack in a rather darker blue shade - distinct from the air force shade. But I also have other FN-ZM items are are in the army khaki colour.

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    Re: Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

    Post by michelwijnand on Fri Sep 15, 2017 1:27 pm

    Got a load of random webbing parts, this is all the Belgian stuff that was in it.

    Though I will be keeping the L-straps, bayonet frog, top belt, and maybe the duffelbag.

    Anyone needs any of the rest, I'd like to hear it.



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    Re: Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

    Post by michelwijnand on Mon Dec 11, 2017 2:49 pm

    Also, I came across this pic of the old webbing worn with the newer green uniform (probably mid-late 60's), where the old camo tent half is worn
    on the back of the belt as is later also seen on the M71 webbing.
    Does anyone know from what year these were issued to normal infantry, and from what year this way of wear became the standard?






    Just to be clear, this type.


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    Re: Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

    Post by Wolverine on Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:19 pm

    Those are great photos.
    I would have thought that these tents were generally issued upon their introduction in the 1950s. But I think we would have a tough time finding photographs of troops in the field carrying the tents on their belts.

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    Re: Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

    Post by michelwijnand on Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:12 pm

    Yeah it's pretty hard finding 50's pics at all, let alone in full combat gear. Most just show skeleton order for practice.
    For some reason I've seen people claim the tents were first for commandos etc. only, but I think those ideas are just derived from the fact that the uniforms were.
    Up till a certain point, when even some infantry (stormfusellier) units wore suits or just jackets.
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    Re: Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

    Post by Wolverine on Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:49 pm

    Well either way I am going to make up a figure like this one in my display room.
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    Re: Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

    Post by Antarmike on Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:23 pm

    Latest addtion  eft, a shell dressing bag.  I already have one on the right that has no maker or stamp, that I always assumed was British bag adopted by the Belgians but my new one is clearly Belgian made, so now I wonder if my first one is also made by the Belgians.



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    Post by Antarmike on Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:37 pm

    Finally I have a food flask for my carrier!

    Unfortunately the dates for the carrier and the flask are quite a lot different


    But being a late flask, the rubber seal is in good working order

    Just got to get the pressure equalising valve working freely and I will be ble to take a hot dinner to any one day shows I attend this year.....
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    Re: Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

    Post by Wolverine on Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:30 am

    Nice stuff - I have a similar dressing bag. I will check for markings. Given the number of these I have seen in Belgium without any obvious British markings, I had always assumed that they were Belgian made.
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    Re: Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

    Post by belgium_one on Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:41 pm

    Hello Smile

    the camo tent half pouch worn by a soldier

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    Re: Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

    Post by Wolverine on Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:56 pm

    Nice catch!
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    Re: Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

    Post by Antarmike on Thu Mar 08, 2018 2:58 pm

    Canvas wash basin...1959?   Looks unissued to me.



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    Re: Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

    Post by Wolverine on Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:52 pm

    Yes, these were around for a long time. At some point I think they changed to rubber.
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    Re: Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

    Post by Wolverine on Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:32 pm

    For the first time I have come across a respirator carrier with air force markings. Also, there is a small paper label/sticker with the owner's name which suggests it was indeed issued to an airman.
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    Re: Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

    Post by masive on Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:56 am

    Nice find. With Air force markings I don't see such a carrier before.
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    Re: Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

    Post by Antarmike on Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:49 am

    The E tool for that pouch would be a US made Ames, probably dated 43 or 44. The belgians were still issuing US wartime stock until the mid 1980's.

    The E tool will have US markings and nothing in particular to show its use by the ABL.

    M-51 gas masks come up on Ebay all the time. Though most do not have a filter 9or a Russian filter has been substituted, (Beware, most Russian filters being sold contain Asbestos.)
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    Re: Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

    Post by Wolverine on Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:31 pm

    masive wrote:Nice find. With Air force markings I don't see such a carrier before.

    Yes, I was surprised to find it, and also the relatively late date of 1958. I wonder how long these carriers were in production, given their long period of use.
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    Re: Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

    Post by Antarmike on Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:16 pm

    Oops


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    Re: Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

    Post by Antarmike on Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:17 pm

    oops again

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