Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

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    Re: Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

    Post by Antarmike on Sat Mar 04, 2017 6:35 pm

    1960 kit bag



    Shame it has a tiny wear hole through the bottom though, otherwise VGC.
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    Re: Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

    Post by Antarmike on Sat Mar 04, 2017 6:50 pm

    Sometimes it is finding something quite inconsequential that really makes my day.   I had never even seen a photo of a Belgian tin opener, and now I have one in my collection!

    ABL 1959



    Now I have to find a 50's 60's ration tin!
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    Re: Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

    Post by Wolverine on Sun Mar 05, 2017 9:44 pm

    That one is new to me also.
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    Re: Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

    Post by belgium_one on Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:12 am

    Hello Very Happy
    my kit bag from 1965

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    Re: Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

    Post by Antarmike on Fri Mar 10, 2017 7:18 pm

    Antarmike wrote:As we know the US set up a shop to make kit for the US army in Belgium, and that is how Belgium adopted US pattern Canteen sets.  I should have bought this when I saw it.  A Belgian made  cup for the Americans, made on the same machinery that would later make cups for the ABL.


    Well having missed the first one I saw on Ebay, I didn't miss this Ebay one.  "Reverse lease-lend" Cup made in Belgium for the U.S.Army.

    Doesn't directly relate to my ABL collection, but it sort of fills in the history of how the Belgians ended up with U.S, style cups I suppose.......




    It is actually a better fit for this ABL Water bottle than the ABL cup (dated 1956) I had it paired with originally...


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    Re: Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

    Post by Antarmike on Fri Mar 10, 2017 7:30 pm

    belgium_one wrote:Hello Very Happy
    my kit bag from 1965

    Thanks for sharing. Metal looks a little less corroded than mone, nice.
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    Re: Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

    Post by Antarmike on Sun Mar 19, 2017 6:10 pm

    Navy ZM/FN Bayonet frog (for FN-49 AFN?)




    FN-49 Oil Bottle and cleaning kit / pull through







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    Re: Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

    Post by Antarmike on Sun Mar 19, 2017 6:28 pm

    Gaiters 1958?



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    Re: Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

    Post by Antarmike on Sat May 06, 2017 11:24 am



    Not sure if this Leather FN-49 Energa Rifle grande launcher pouch is ABL or not? advice please?
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    Re: Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

    Post by Antarmike on Sat May 06, 2017 11:42 am

    Added another FALO Chest rig.
    This one has an extra pouch.



    I am guessing from size and shape it might be for stripper clip charger?



    I am assuming that this is the earlier of the two chest Rigs, and that the pouch was omitted to make it more confortable to fire from prone position?

    This appears to be yet another version?

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    Re: Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

    Post by Wolverine on Sat May 06, 2017 7:08 pm

    I know of three different types of the automatic rifle belt. If I recall correctly, one has six magazine pockets, one has four, and one is like that you have illustrated. I am not sure what the small pocket was intended to carry.
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    Re: Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

    Post by Wolverine on Sat May 06, 2017 7:09 pm

    Antarmike wrote:

    Not sure if this Leather FN-49 Energa Rifle grande launcher pouch is ABL or not?  advice please?

    I am pretty sure it is ABL.
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    Re: Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

    Post by Antarmike on Sun May 07, 2017 11:41 am

    Wolverine wrote:
    Antarmike wrote:

    Not sure if this Leather FN-49 Energa Rifle grande launcher pouch is ABL or not?  advice please?

    I am pretty sure it is ABL.

    I tnink I am going to have to make a reproduction Energa launcher. They are available in the US but nobody is prepared to ship one to the uk. Has anyone got one. I need the overall length as a starting point for producing a scale drawing for manufactur. My best estimate so far falls betweem 273 and 278 mm, but I need to know for sure. Thanks if anyone can help.
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    Re: Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

    Post by Wolverine on Sun May 07, 2017 11:46 am

    What about dealers in Belgium?
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    Re: Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

    Post by Antarmike on Sun May 07, 2017 4:15 pm

    Wolverine wrote:What about dealers in Belgium?
    EU deactivation rules complicate things because in EU a launcher has to be welded to the muzzle.  makes sourcing In Belgium virtually impossible.

    Googleing the item only brings results in US or Canada.
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    Re: Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

    Post by Wolverine on Sun May 07, 2017 5:26 pm

    Ah, I see.
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    Re: Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

    Post by Wolverine on Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:29 pm

    I finally found this version of the shovel carrier. It is made from canvas that has been recycled from other components, probably a British WE 37 large pack. The outlines of old stitches are visible.



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    Re: Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

    Post by Wolverine on Fri Aug 04, 2017 3:17 pm

    A question - has anyone come across the Belgian WE 37 small pack in air force light blue (not naval dark blue), with the straps for attaching the entrenching tool directly to the pack?

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    Re: Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

    Post by masive on Sat Aug 05, 2017 3:15 am

    Hello,

    You mean such a small pack? I am pretty sure that this is from the Air Force.



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    Re: Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

    Post by michelwijnand on Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:13 am

    I saw a few for sale on facebook a month or 2 ago
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    Re: Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

    Post by Wolverine on Sat Aug 05, 2017 11:17 am

    Yes Marc, that's the one. Are there any markings under the flap?
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    Re: Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

    Post by masive on Sat Aug 05, 2017 12:06 pm

    There are no markings to find.
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    Re: Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

    Post by Wolverine on Sat Aug 05, 2017 11:28 pm

    michelwijnand wrote:I saw a few for sale on facebook a month or 2 ago

    If you see more let me know.

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    Re: Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

    Post by michelwijnand on Sun Aug 06, 2017 5:55 am

    Will do!
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    Re: Belgian copy of Brit '37 Pattern webbing

    Post by Antarmike on Sun Aug 06, 2017 5:33 pm

    I have one in same colour  It is stamped FN/ZM VOLH 65,  so it is Navy but is in this blue/grey.




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