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    Post by Tophe on Mon Oct 31, 2011 8:02 am

    Here are some body armor in the first part.

    LBA+Wahler, 1987
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    LBA+Wahler, 1996
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    Post by CollectinSteve on Tue Nov 01, 2011 2:05 am

    Interesting! I don't think I've seen one with velcro sewn onto the breast. Are you sure it is dated 1987? That was when they were still in early testing of Flecktarn. I'm curious to see what the label looks like. Germans are very good at marking trials pieces with "TrVsu", "TruVsu", "Truppenversuche", or "Ep..." something or other. I can never remember the last one Wink

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    Post by Tophe on Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:39 am

    Well, there is nothing like that :

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    But the "los" number on kevlar panels is quite interesting...
    Is it be possible that it's a piece of the very first los of fragvest produced ???

    Basically, it was a mistake. I ask for a mittel/kurz vest and they sent me a gross/lang. I was close to sent it back and ask for refund but somethings stop me :

    - Production date : 1987, since flecktarn was officially adopted around 1989 (most websites).

    - Strange looking flecktarn : the colors looked like the belgian variation (far away in fact).

    - Aramid los number 1...

    At that time, I couldn't find any information, so I keep it.
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    Post by CollectinSteve on Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:23 pm

    Wow! Yes, definitely keep that one Smile It appears to be something made for the trials even though it doesn't say that. I have a gray version from earlier (1986? I can't remember), so I can confirm the design is certainly consistent with 1987. I'm still surprised there is no TrVsu indication on the label.

    The colors of BW Flecktarn aren't consistent, especially after being worn and washed. But you are correct, it has more of a Belgian look than the traditional BW look (though this is not Belgian).

    Flecktarn was not adopted until 1989, for sure. However, mass production didn't start until 1990 or 1991 (I forget which). From 1987-1989 the Germans engaged in large trials, initially with both gray and Flecktarn types for the 1987 trials. They made a lot of different things during this period.

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    Post by Tophe on Sat Mar 17, 2012 5:56 am

    And now, my two new old vest :

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    MARQUARDT & SCHULZ, Truppenversuch 1976, Modell II

    The cut is very unusual and the fabric seems to have wool inside. The vest is quite heavy.

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    Is it "THE ONE" ???

    Flecktarn A klein, Truppenversuch 1976 ???

    I found only one picture on the web and it looks like the same (cut, clour, pattern) but I didn't have any label inside the vest to be sure.
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    Post by Albano on Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:05 pm

    Nice jackets. First time i see one like the one on top. Looks like a fleece.
    Would like to know more about it if anyone be so gentle to do so. Thanks in advance.

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    Post by CollectinSteve on Sun May 06, 2012 3:07 am

    I recently became aware of the Flecktarn B (Gross) Modell II. Apparently it was intended for naval forces providing security on board ships. What the US would consider "Marines". It is the only variant of the TruVsu 76 basic 5 models as far as I know.

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    Post by CollectinSteve on Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:24 am

    A small update. The TrVsu 76 jacket noted above was intended for Gebirgsjäger (mountain troops) and rejected, was later tested in 1988 for all ground forced and rejected, then finally adopted in the 1990s as the Bordejacke for the Bundesmarine (Navy).

    As far as I know there is Modell I and Modell II consisting of jacket and knee trousers (I've never seen Modell I confirmed, but Modell II is confirmed). For sure Modell II was also made in Moleskin, so I presume Model I was also made in Moleskin.

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