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    Soviet kit

    Post by Typhoon7 on Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:31 am

    This is my very small WWII collection of four items.

    I have a TT-33 pistol holster, two RGD-33 stick grenade bags, and a pilotka hat,
    topped off with a sack bag. (Actual name I do not know)

    Yes.... Disregard the left half of the grenade bag pic. ^^' None of those existed then.









    So I guess thats all for my WWII equipment. ^^'' hehe

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    Post by Gulf91 on Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:29 am

    At a guess i would say that the Pilotka is post WW2.
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    Post by Typhoon7 on Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:31 am

    Oh, prolly. But I still matched it with the WWII stuff anyway. *shrugs*

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    Post by Gulf91 on Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:32 am

    There should be some ink stamps inside which will include a date.

    Bot 100% sure but think the badge on WW2 caps was green?
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    Post by Typhoon7 on Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:36 am

    Thanks... There is a stamp on the inside... *checks* And I think it depends on the branch of the Soviet war machine, cause the was both green and red if memory serves. :?
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    Post by Tyler Flint on Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:37 pm

    I believe they were both aswell^
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    Post by Brigade Piron on Sun Dec 18, 2011 5:21 pm

    The Meshok (back pack) is post war too, I'm afraid. The pocket + staps for the attached poncho are 1950s' manufacture.

    I agree with Gulf91, the pilotka looks post-war (any time up to the mid '80s). Second World War red stars do exist, but they were designed for pre-war/parade cap/ushanka use. All Great Patriotic War ones should be green, though they aren't always. When they are coloured they are pretty crude/not enamelled).

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    Post by russian142 on Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:59 pm

    Backpack is postwar
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    Re: Soviet kit

    Post by Albano on Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:35 am

    Must agree on the point that stars on WW2 pilotka were green. Red ones only for parade dress or officers and NKVD caps.

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    Post by russian142 on Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:48 am

    Albano wrote:Must agree on the point that stars on WW2 pilotka were green. Red ones only for parade dress or officers and NKVD caps.

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    No, no and no. Red Stars was before war and in war on pilotka's. Green Stars was in issue since 1941, after start of war.
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    Post by Gulf91 on Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:35 am

    Any period colour pics of WW2 Pilotkas in use with Red stars?
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    Post by Albano on Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:32 pm

    russian142 wrote:
    Albano wrote:Must agree on the point that stars on WW2 pilotka were green. Red ones only for parade dress or officers and NKVD caps.

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    No, no and no. Red Stars was before war and in war on pilotka's. Green Stars was in issue since 1941, after start of war.
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    My mistake then. Must bow to that.

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    Post by russian142 on Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:32 pm

    Gulf91 wrote:Any period colour pics of WW2 Pilotkas in use with Red stars?

    Pics? Why pics? I seen orders about uniform and etc. And seen a lot of digged Red Stars (which was in good condition) from remnants.
    And something like this
    http://rkka.ru/uniform/files/btv14.htm
    Just goodle this, and you will see. Red Stars used always and everywhere, since 1917. Green Stars was not so popular and nice, like Red.
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    Re: Soviet kit

    Post by russian142 on Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:32 pm

    And TT-33 holster is naval version.
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