Russian/Soviet Winter Uniforms

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    Russian/Soviet Winter Uniforms

    Post by escammo on Thu Feb 09, 2012 6:36 pm

    TTsKO
    Button chest and lower pockets, external upper sleeve pockets with Velcro closure, 1986 date, enlisted fur collar, machine applied naval infantry patch.




    TTsKO
    Button chest and lower pockets, internal upper sleeve pockets with Velcro closure, 1989 date, enlisted fur collar, felt type liner, divided cargo pocket on left leg.




    VSR
    Button chest and lower pockets, external upper sleeve pockets with Velcro closure, 1992 date, enlisted fur collar.




    VSR
    Button-down chest and open slash-type lower pockets, sewn-in felt liner, dated 1997, Velcro fastened internal pockets on each upper sleeve, no internal holster pocket, officer quality fur collar, machine applied Russian Armed Forces patch on the left sleeve and an Airborne Peacekeeper patch on the right sleeve (Bosnia).




    Flora
    Button chest and open slash lower pockets, internal upper sleeve pockets with Velcro closure, 2000 date, officer quality fur collar, machine sewn insignia.




    Other pattern here:
    http://iacmc.forumotion.com/t5486-ukraine-armenian-winter-uniform-m88-cut

    Bi-Color here:
    http://iacmc.forumotion.com/t5737-soviet-bi-color-camo-winter-uniform
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    Re: Russian/Soviet Winter Uniforms

    Post by shoru on Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:20 am

    Erick, these are real beauties!

    I would love to own a set similar to your VDV winter set!
    And I think the Bi-Color doesn't even need a comment, it is absolutely outstanding.

    Later I'll try to post pictures of my winter uniforms, too.


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    Re: Russian/Soviet Winter Uniforms

    Post by shoru on Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:58 pm

    Hey mates, here are my current winter suits. Not the best, but I'm pretty happy to have some of them. Smile
    Because of my bad photo skills and lightning conditions nearly all pants look too bright, they're matching colors on nearly all of the sets.

    Russian Butan dated 93, normal M88 cut.


    Russian Butan dated 93, normal M88 cut.


    Russian/Soviet "Sliva" uniform, I'm still not sure what this exactly is.


    Soviet Spetsodezdha/Border Guard uniform, dated 89, normal M88 cut.


    Soviet/Ukrainian whatever uniform, M88 cut.


    Random Russian Flora, missing collar.


    Soviet 1991 dated MorPeh TTsKO uniform, M88 cut.


    Russian/Soviet TTsKO uniform, M88 cut.


    Soviet TTsKO VDV cut uniform, 1989 dated.


    Soviet TTsKO uniform, 1990 or 91 dated, M88 cut.


    Soviet 1990 dated TTsKO VDV cut uniform.


    VSR winter, nice mustard color, M88 cut.
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    Re: Russian/Soviet Winter Uniforms

    Post by escammo on Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:59 pm

    Nice! Thank you for posting.
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    Re: Russian/Soviet Winter Uniforms

    Post by shoru on Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:31 pm

    You're welcome, maybe I'll post my whole collection, but I'm not sure yet.
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    Cold?

    Post by fourtycoats on Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:21 pm

    It must be very cold there in Winter to justify such a fine collection of cold weather suits Very Happy
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    Re: Russian/Soviet Winter Uniforms

    Post by shoru on Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:02 pm

    I sometimes wear the jackets for fun, and the trousers are actually really comfortable and can be worn at even not that cold weather.

    But thank you for the kind words. Smile
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    Re: Russian/Soviet Winter Uniforms

    Post by Red Alert on Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:33 am

    Erick, what a great collection! Shocked I’m very jealous of the Marine Corps costume! I want to get such for myself in my size Crying or Very sad

    Could you post photos of a stamps from jacket and pants separately? – From the costume that was made in 1986 ? Please !
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    Re: Russian/Soviet Winter Uniforms

    Post by escammo on Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:28 pm

    Red Alert wrote:Erick, what a great collection! Shocked I’m very jealous of the Marine Corps costume! I want to get such for myself in my size Crying or Very sad

    Could you post photos of a stamps from jacket and pants separately? – From the costume that was made in 1986 ? Please !

    Thank you for the compliment!

    Here is a photo of the stamps on the uniform:

    The uniform is a size 46-4. The cloth tag on the right has the number 867 printed on it. There are similar tags on the pants as well as the pant and jacket liners that have the same number. Definitely a matching set through out!

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    Re: Russian/Soviet Winter Uniforms

    Post by shoru on Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:03 pm

    What a nice find, absolutely new! These are rarely seen nowadays!
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    Re: Russian/Soviet Winter Uniforms

    Post by CollectinSteve on Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:39 pm

    Stunning examples of hard to find, and expensive, winter uniforms. Amazing finds.

    The Soviet and early Russian items seen here are actually exceptions to the general rule that winter gear is less expensive, or not significantly more expensive, than summer uniforms. I know what some of these sell for and it's definitely far up there! Which is why my Soviet and early Russian collection is so small Very Happy

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    Re: Russian/Soviet Winter Uniforms

    Post by shoru on Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:57 pm

    You might be right, but in the last few months I only came across winter uniforms.
    I'm looking for a normal M88 cut summer TTsKO for quite a time now, I have 3 VDV summer uniforms and a technical-troops uniform, but not a single M88 summer TTsKO.
    The same goes for the prices, sometimes they pop up pretty cheap, but normally their prices hit the sky.
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    Re: Russian/Soviet Winter Uniforms

    Post by koalorka on Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:57 pm

    I believe there was also a VSR winter uniform made in the same cut as the Soviet TTsKO/Butane VDV winter, with the internal sleeve pockets and buttoned felt liner.

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    Re: Russian/Soviet Winter Uniforms

    Post by DanielDK on Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:39 am

    This is the only sets I have:

    VDV Winter flora uniform with wool liner:


    Army digital flora Winter uniform:

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    Re: Russian/Soviet Winter Uniforms

    Post by fourtycoats on Sat Dec 07, 2013 1:24 pm

    A 1991 dated Pilots suit in TTsKO cammo. Very warm.

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    Re: Russian/Soviet Winter Uniforms

    Post by Camo_fiend on Sat Dec 07, 2013 3:47 pm

    I've got a set of the digital flora myself. Very warm but lighter than the older winter sets. I'm impressed with it.


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    Re: Russian/Soviet Winter Uniforms

    Post by DanielDK on Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:44 pm

    Same here and also a important point, is that it's easy to move in, compared to the older model.

    But standing at a checkpoint in really cold weather, nothing beats that fur collar.
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    Re: Russian/Soviet Winter Uniforms

    Post by koalorka on Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:11 pm

    Finally have some time to document the three different types of winter VSR issued by the Russian armed forces, since Desmond didn't describe them accurately in his book.

    1. The first type is simply a VSR-printed camouflage version of the M1982 "Afghanka" winter uniform (again incorrectly described by Desmond as derived from a "1981 airborne khaki uniform") and the Soviet marines TTsKO/butane winter camouflage uniform. It has all of the same features, including billowed sleeve pockets, internal holster, buttoned liner etc.



    Issued at least since 1993 (but this gets fuzzy since VSR was seen as early as 1991) and distributed to all of the service branches. Replaced in 1995 by a simplified version.





    Pistol holster pouch:



    Method of attachment of the winter liner:



    Trousers:



    2. Alongside the above uniform, the VDV were issued their own specialized airborne version of the winter VSR, which inherits all of the features of the Soviet-era VDV TTsKO winter uniform, including the internal sleeve pockets and buttoned felt liner on the top end, and the different insulated trousers, featuring additional billowed pockets on the seat and a left thigh cargo pocket divided into two compartments for AK magazines.

    This uniform was issued since 1993 and replaced by 1995 by the low-cost and lighter weight version described further down.



    Stamps:



    Liner attachment:



    Magazine pouch on the left thigh:



    And the trousers:



    Photos of paratroopers from 1993:






    3. Finally in 1995, a simplified version was issued to replace both types above. Complaints targeted at the utility of the lower billowed pockets on the jackets resulted in them being omitted, and replaced with shallow, open slash pockets. The internal sleeve pockets from the airborne were now retained for the all service version. This type was now issued to both land forces and the VDV, with the only distinction being the liner - the airborne versions continued to use a felt lining, attached with Velcro squares and buttons.

    In this form, the uniform was issued until 1998, when it was replaced by Flora camouflage, which retained the same format.



    This uniform show is the airborne variant, issued in 1998. You can see the mil-spec code ending in 95, indicating when this type was first specified.








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    Re: Russian/Soviet Winter Uniforms

    Post by SpencerD on Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:48 am

    Where do you guys find these jackets? Also what kind of prices do you pay?

    I usually only collect US militaria since it's the easiest to get my hands on, but I like wearing some of the jackets I find. Ever since I saw VSR winter jackets in various pictures around the web, I've been hoping to find one for a while. Especially with winter coming closer, it'd be nice addition to wear for fun this year.

    I found one listing (just the jacket) on ebay from a seller in Russia, $64.63 + $53.87 shipping for a $118.50 total, I'm not sure if there's a liner inside but it's in good condition. Is this too much?
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    Re: Russian/Soviet Winter Uniforms

    Post by CollectinSteve on Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:15 am

    Mostly these are coming out of the former Soviet Republics, and mostly Russia. And yes, the shipping costs for them sucks a lot. It is now a serious determent for collecting winter kit. If the price for the items isn't on the low side then it simply doesn't make sense to collect unless that is a primary area of interest.

    As for good price... it totally depends on what the item is. Some of the sets pictured above are worth several hundred Dollars, perhaps topping out around $400. Some of the common VSR coats might be as low as $40. Of course condition has a lot to do with it. My experience is well used winter items lose more value than well used summer items. I think it's because the high shipping cost is the same whether the item is unissued or rags, so might as well spend a bit more and get a very good item or nothing. So it depends entirely on what exactly you're looking at.

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    Re: Russian/Soviet Winter Uniforms

    Post by Soviet79 on Mon Mar 02, 2015 8:17 pm

    I own a rare Mabuta winter uniform dated 1975. I'll post pictures of it later.
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    Re: Russian/Soviet Winter Uniforms

    Post by jimmyduncan23 on Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:34 pm

    Might be the wrong area. But im looking at getting a russian winter uniform. Im 189cm tall and waist 36 im thinking 52-5. What size would be good for me in russian sizes and how much is a russian digital flora winter set value

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    Re: Russian/Soviet Winter Uniforms

    Post by Soviet79 on Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:14 pm

    jimmyduncan23 wrote:Might be the wrong area. But im looking at getting a russian winter uniform. Im 189cm tall and waist 36 im thinking 52-5. What size would be good for me in russian sizes and how much is a russian digital flora winter set value

    Your size would be 54/5 but I would go for 6 in height and the prize is around 100$US but maybe a lot less if you find it on ebay.
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    Re: Russian/Soviet Winter Uniforms

    Post by jimmyduncan23 on Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:16 pm

    Thanks heaps mate

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