Spanish Cetme Mag Pouches

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    Spanish Cetme Mag Pouches

    Post by panzerwerk on Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:08 am

    I got these off ebay a couple months ago , best of my knowledge they are Spanish , but a very weird camo , let me know what you guys think !

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    Re: Spanish Cetme Mag Pouches

    Post by Solideo on Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:54 am

    Hi Panzer, those pouches are Spanish for sure. Most common it´s said is they used by Spanish Marines. But it´s more than sure that it was in use for some more units.

    I know of that camo the belt, the Y suspenders and the pistol holster.

    Good adquisition, rares to find even in Spain. They are so expensive when found.

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    Re: Spanish Cetme Mag Pouches

    Post by panzerwerk on Wed Apr 08, 2009 10:43 am

    Thanks Solideo I was lucky and got them very cheap , Do you know if they ever made uniforms in this pattern ??

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    Re: Spanish Cetme Mag Pouches

    Post by Solideo on Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:49 am

    Hi Panzer. I have no notice about uniforms made of that pattern at all.

    The most similar to that was a poncho liner, and some other items like holsters, etc in such a similar pattern but not the same.



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    Re: Spanish Cetme Mag Pouches

    Post by panzerwerk on Wed Apr 08, 2009 12:02 pm

    Very cool Thanks !!!!

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    Re: Spanish Cetme Mag Pouches

    Post by CollectinSteve on Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:38 pm

    Once again, I am compelled to call Steve what he really is... a bastard Very Happy I've been looking for those for eons, and here you go and get them cheap without even knowing what you have. Life is not fair and I'm going to whine and complain until it becomes fair!

    There's a pistol holster in this pattern as well as belt suspenders (like H-Straps but not connected to each other). I suspect a pistol belt as well, not sure about any other items.

    As it so happens, I have a spare set of the suspenders Very Happy I was going to put them up on eBay in a few weeks, however I can put them in your pile of other goodies if you like. Email me if interested.

    Solideo, take a look at this picture you posted VERY carefully...



    It appears to be the same equipment. Note especially the fact that the belt suspenders have two support points on the belt. I don't know of other Spanish suspenders like this. They also are pretty clearly camouflage, and again I don't know of anything from this time period that is in camouflage *other* than this stuff. What do you think?

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    Re: Spanish Cetme Mag Pouches

    Post by Solideo on Wed Apr 08, 2009 4:01 pm

    Hi both Steve:

    Steven (collectin), I have lost my glasses, better have a look at this Very Happy Wink



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    Re: Spanish Cetme Mag Pouches

    Post by Philip on Wed Apr 08, 2009 4:47 pm

    why is there a child on the first pic?


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    Re: Spanish Cetme Mag Pouches

    Post by Solideo on Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:01 pm

    derxsammler wrote:why is there a child on the first pic?

    I have no real explanation, but it was usual that Spanish military men had their families living with them in Africa. Those children used to live most their lives among legionnaires, parachoutistes or whatever. Si I suppose the child was son of any military of the unit.

    I have often seen small reduced Legion uniforms for children from that era. But I am just supposing.

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    Re: Spanish Cetme Mag Pouches

    Post by panzerwerk on Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:22 pm

    The pouches are yours Steve , I will send them to you , they were very cheap for me about $20 shipped, and I have almost no Spanish stuff in my collection .

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    Re: Spanish Cetme Mag Pouches

    Post by bond007a1 on Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:25 pm

    panzerwerk wrote: and I have almost no Spanish stuff in my collection .

    SHAME on you Steve H Shocked ...EVERYONE NEEEDS Spanish stuff....Steve G....got me into in & he can tell ya...I LOVE Spanish militaria...although I have a VERY long way to go... Very Happy

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    Re: Spanish Cetme Mag Pouches

    Post by CollectinSteve on Wed Apr 08, 2009 10:18 pm

    Solideo,

    Yes, that looks like it!!! Very nice to finally have confirmed pictures of these in use.

    Philip,

    why is there a child on the first pic?

    Every unit needs a mascot Very Happy Either that or it is the famous Colonel Pequeño. He might be small, but he can throw a big tantrum!

    And yes, everybody needs Spanish stuff. However, only after I have at least one of everything Wink

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    Re: Spanish Cetme Mag Pouches

    Post by Solideo on Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:17 am

    Bond, it´s for sure that here master of Spanish militaria is Steven "the great", but be sure I will break my ass (not in the sexual sense) for getting you those pouches.

    Calling a child "mascot" is not so correct Evil or Very Mad , in Legion traditions was usually to have lots of differents mascots: Monkeys, goats, sheeps, dogs, wild boars, parrots...even bears.

    Children were normally sons of military who lived by Legion or other units quarters, since they were born all their lifes went into the military tradition of the units and their family was the complete unit. Until a little time existed the called "poblados legionarios", they were like residentials were legionnaires families lived in humble houses. In entrance there were armed legionnaires to protect them.

    Most of those children became legionnaires in early ages and most of the girls married to legionnaires aswell, because their life was Legion.








    Even today some fathers who joined Legion or in intimate relationship with catholic congregations of Spanish Legion Christ (called Cristo de la Buena Muerte "Christ of Good Death) use to dress their sons in special acts with the uniform



    There is a very special relation between that Christ and Legion because since fundation the Legion creed demmanded to die in combat. Millan Astray the founder of Legion used Bushido to create that creed. So in that Spain of so long ago soldier who was sure to die needed to think there was something more after death and a special relation to the Legion Christ was created. In all Legion acts, Christ and our deads are honoured for that.




    Sorry I wrote so much about nonsenses, but sometime history of uniformity needs to understand before the way of living of those who wear it. Death myst explains for example traditional open shirts of legionnaires, the tradition said that shirt should be open because such a noble lady who is Death might never find a closed door (closed shirt)



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    Re: Spanish Cetme Mag Pouches

    Post by CollectinSteve on Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:20 pm

    Fantastic pictures! I've seen pictures of Legion goat mascots before, but never with a uniformed monkey on its back. A saying in English is, "well, that's something you don't see every day!" Very Happy

    I was making a joke about the child being a mascot, of course, however I enjoyed learning about the tradition the Legion has for its sons. Very unique.

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    Re: Spanish Cetme Mag Pouches

    Post by Solideo on Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:32 pm

    CollectinSteve wrote:Fantastic pictures! I've seen pictures of Legion goat mascots before, but never with a uniformed monkey on its back. A saying in English is, "well, that's something you don't see every day!" Very Happy

    I was making a joke about the child being a mascot, of course, however I enjoyed learning about the tradition the Legion has for its sons. Very unique.

    Steve

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    I understood calling mascot a children was not serious, I even don´t know if I am understood when kidding about something (these are the problems of using different languages)

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    Re: Spanish Cetme Mag Pouches

    Post by alltoursnatives on Sun Apr 12, 2009 6:38 pm

    Hi guys, specially panzerwerk

    This items is 100% spanish, in fact it´s a very early example of camouflage used in Spanish army. this is the second style, made for CETME. There was an early examples for the mauser. I attached pictures of of the 2 sets in my collection there are also holster and , Z-45 AMMO Pouches)

    You will see the pictures in my website

    http://perso.wanadoo.es/camouniforms/spainthebest.htm

    Take care and very well done!!

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    Re: Spanish Cetme Mag Pouches

    Post by Solideo on Mon Apr 13, 2009 2:58 am

    I have found a place where you can buy those pouches and the suspenders

    http://www.soldiers.es/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=204_375_377&products_id=5454

    http://www.soldiers.es/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=204_375_377&products_id=5453

    It´s a serious place. You can buy online there.

    One mistery less.

    Other place to buy Spanish militaria at good prices is www.todocoleccion.net

    and it´s English version http://www.allcollection.net/ . Those webs are not complitely the same because the seller of Spanish version can afford the option of selling in only the Spanish web or both.

    If any of you have interest in getting anything which seller does not want to send to foreign countries just contact me and I can contact the seller.

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    Re: Spanish Cetme Mag Pouches

    Post by panzerwerk on Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:43 am

    Very Nice Solideo But those are different then the ones I sent Collectinsteve , Mine had no green in them , very Interesting and A great find , Thanks for sharing !!

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    Re: Spanish Cetme Mag Pouches

    Post by Solideo on Tue Apr 14, 2009 4:35 am

    panzerwerk wrote:Very Nice Solideo But those are different then the ones I sent Collectinsteve , Mine had no green in them , very Interesting and A great find , Thanks for sharing !!

    I had no realized about that, any way mines were given from a friend who lives in Madrid, I ahve asked him and has told me that were brought there and have very, very small green stains. Possibly depending the portion of the clothe. Anyway I don´t asure it, mine is Legion. (and I have no notice of those wuere used by Legion)

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