Hi Gary I have done some reserch the triangle coulor donates the company and the number donates the platoon I have found a picture of paras the 2eREP riging up for the Kolwezi jump on 19 May 1978 if you look at the emlarged rucksack you will see the same symbol, so your helmet could have came from the REP
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French F1 Helmet (French: 3e Régiment étranger d'infanterie.)
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jaycee wrote:the only reason i asked about the gulf war is becauce of this picture they look remarkably similar to your lid ,what do you think gary a close match cheers james
James I am liking this picture a lot Mate, fantastic period picture, from GW1.
I do see why you queried mine now, I am aware legion troops were very much on the ground ( or should that be sand!!) during Op Daguet,but I always assumed they were issued with the 3 tone "Daguet " cover, not the Sateen O.G version, many thanks for posting this pix, you've made my day James.
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Gulf91 wrote:Come off it now guys,stop all this as i NEED one of those covers myself
Sort of on the same subject,well F1s anyway.
Everyone has seen and probably has one of those SALADE covers in their collections but i have just been told by someone that there were indeed 3 slightly different versions issued-anyone got any info regarding this as being the obsessive that i am ,will now have to dig mine out and check the dammn things!!!!!(also,the Aussies issued/used a very similar type with their M1s for Vietnam and after).
Your right Rich, there are different versions, wasn't aware there were 3 specifically, The First issue Salade netting cover was use on the M51 Otan. There is not a great deal of info out there regarding Salade covers. Could be the start of my next research project......
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loski wrote:Hi Gary I have done some reserch the triangle coulor donates the company and the number donates the platoon I have found a picture of paras the 2eREP riging up for the Kolwezi jump on 19 May 1978 if you look at the emlarged rucksack you will see the same symbol, so your helmet could have came from the REP
Many thanks for taking the time out to look into this Graham,this is a very interesting aspect of F1 history I've not delved too deeply into, but I will now, thanks again , I appreciate your support Mate
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Hi Gary
I Spoke to a guy I know who is an exlegionnaire and showed a picture of your F1 he told me adout the markings.
I Spoke to a guy I know who is an exlegionnaire and showed a picture of your F1 he told me adout the markings.
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glad to be of service gary ,i thought you might like it
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Easy Gee wrote:Gulf91 wrote:Come off it now guys,stop all this as i NEED one of those covers myself
Sort of on the same subject,well F1s anyway.
Everyone has seen and probably has one of those SALADE covers in their collections but i have just been told by someone that there were indeed 3 slightly different versions issued-anyone got any info regarding this as being the obsessive that i am ,will now have to dig mine out and check the dammn things!!!!!(also,the Aussies issued/used a very similar type with their M1s for Vietnam and after).
Your right Rich, there are different versions, wasn't aware there were 3 specifically, The First issue Salade netting cover was use on the M51 Otan. There is not a great deal of info out there regarding Salade covers. Could be the start of my next research project......
Yep,pretty sure i found the info/pics etc on some website but cannot find it again now im afraid.
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loski wrote:Hi Gary
I Spoke to a guy I know who is an ex legionnaire and showed a picture of your F1 he told me adout the markings.
Hi Graham.
That's the best source of info with out doubt ,to be honest I never realised that the markings colour and triangle had that much detailed meaning. I keen to learn more/collect kit on the legionnaire's in Kolwezi, specifically 2 Rep, I shall be trawling through ebay now for goodies.
Thanks again for your input, much appreciated Graham
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jaycee wrote:glad to be of service gary ,i thought you might like it
No worries James, if you need any detailed info in the future PM me, I will be glad to help
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Yep,pretty sure i found the info/pics etc on some website but cannot find it again now im afraid.[/quote]
Yeah Mate, I relate, I have come across some juicy info over the years and then foolishly not made a note of where I found it.
I know I guy who lives in my city, who flog's French gear on ebay. If I can get hold of him I will ask him if he has any info regarding the Salade evolution.
Yeah Mate, I relate, I have come across some juicy info over the years and then foolishly not made a note of where I found it.
I know I guy who lives in my city, who flog's French gear on ebay. If I can get hold of him I will ask him if he has any info regarding the Salade evolution.
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loski wrote:Hi Gary I have done some reserch the triangle coulor donates the company and the number donates the platoon
Presuming you got info from Osprey's Elite edition on French Foreign Legion Paratroops, unfortunately, it doesn't specify whether this marking system is particular to 2e REP or Foreign Legion exclusive or prevalent throughout the French Army. A couple of the colour plates from this reference also feature the triangle on helmets.
Re the Australian 'salade' - yes, it is very similar but from memory the aussie ones are rubberised material with OD on one side and matt dark earth on the other. I suspect they come from Barracuda in Sweden and were post Vietnam worn.
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were post Vietnam worn
Again,probably will never find them but did have pics of the salade type cover being worn in Vietnam.
Again,probably will never find them but did have pics of the salade type cover being worn in Vietnam.
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filupe wrote:loski wrote:Hi Gary I have done some reserch the triangle coulor donates the company and the number donates the platoon
Presuming you got info from Osprey's Elite edition on French Foreign Legion Paratroops, unfortunately, it doesn't specify whether this marking system is particular to 2e REP or Foreign Legion exclusive or prevalent throughout the French Army. A couple of the colour plates from this reference also feature the triangle on helmets.
Re the Australian 'salade' - yes, it is very similar but from memory the aussie ones are rubberised material with OD on one side and matt dark earth on the other. I suspect they come from Barracuda in Sweden and were post Vietnam worn.
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Yes I picked the Picture up from the osprey editon on legion paras as it was the only picture I could find as an example the guy said the markings were used through the legion and he said that in all of the legion the coulor of the triangle is matched by a scarf of the same colour worn around the right sholder but he did not know about the rest of the french army and I did say that Garys helmet could have come from the REP
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Again thanks for all your input fella's, to my knowledge the Triangle is a Legion thing, I am aware the different branches of the French Army wear a coloured silk scarf to denote their branch ( Don't know from memory which colour relates to what unit though).
I seem too remember the scarf wrapped through the epaulette signified something, but again can't recall what is now ...mid forties memory problems don't mix well with collecting stuff eh!!
There's only one thing for me ...buy some related books
I seem too remember the scarf wrapped through the epaulette signified something, but again can't recall what is now ...mid forties memory problems don't mix well with collecting stuff eh!!
There's only one thing for me ...buy some related books
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Hi Gary
Acording to my info the coulor of the scarf / Triangle relates to the company and the numeral relates to the platoon
Acording to my info the coulor of the scarf / Triangle relates to the company and the numeral relates to the platoon
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loski wrote:Hi Gary
Acording to my info the coulor of the scarf / Triangle relates to the company and the numeral relates to the platoon
Again Graham excellent info, this does also make sense as a good way to identify company and platoon in the field,thanks again for your input
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No probs it makes senseEasy Gee wrote:loski wrote:Hi Gary
Acording to my info the coulor of the scarf / Triangle relates to the company and the numeral relates to the platoon
Again Graham excellent info, this does also make sense as a good way to identify company and platoon in the field,thanks again for your input
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