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    Irish pattern?

    Post by jimmyduncan23 on Wed May 23, 2012 4:42 am


    this sold on ebay for 300 pounds never seen it before any know what this is?

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    Re: Irish pattern?

    Post by saltefanden on Wed May 23, 2012 8:03 am

    Experimental?

    The cut looks identical to any shirt made by either PORTWEST, CARRA/SEYNTEX or SEYNTEX I've seen, down to angled pockets, rank slip, neck tag and hanger and the overall ratio between chest/torso size (big) and lenth of the sleeves (short).

    And I'm convinced I've seen an early 'trial' version of Irish DPM somewhere on this very forum (In all probability in Mr. Vonstucks collection Very Happy ), but that was quite different and no where near this ERDL-type pattern.

    Did the thing go to you or were there any more info in the eBay auction?

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    Re: Irish pattern?

    Post by Camo_fiend on Wed May 23, 2012 2:09 pm

    That pattern looks almost exactly like the Singaporean ERDL camo I have... but other than the pattern similarity, I'm clueless as to what it could be.


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    Re: Irish pattern?

    Post by saltefanden on Wed May 23, 2012 3:38 pm

    My Singapore ERDL is much more yellow and greenish blue in colours, has a much more 'conservative' BDU cut and it doesn't have an Irish flag on the shoulder tongue

    Really interesting shirt, I can't wait to know more!

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    Re: Irish pattern?

    Post by panzerwerk on Wed May 23, 2012 4:02 pm

    I would bet its one of the commercial sets made by the company below for the airsoft community , rare but not Military ! Would need to see the tag. They made sets in several camo patterns .



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    Re: Irish pattern?

    Post by CollectinSteve on Wed May 23, 2012 4:35 pm

    That's my guess too. Just because there is a national badge shouldn't fool us into thinking it's legit.

    Having said that, I have no idea what that jacket is, as opposed to the one Steve just posted a pic of. We had a discussion about that one before.

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    Re: Irish pattern?

    Post by jimmyduncan23 on Wed May 23, 2012 5:57 pm

    yer im stumped it had the sentex carra tags with 2007 like the issued irish gear

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    Re: Irish pattern?

    Post by CollectinSteve on Thu May 24, 2012 1:50 am

    Indeed? That's unexpected. I'm sensing the need to PM someone who might know...

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    Post by jimmyduncan23 on Thu May 24, 2012 3:44 am


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    Re: Irish pattern?

    Post by panzerwerk on Thu May 24, 2012 9:05 am

    Interesting !!

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    Post by fourtycoats on Thu May 24, 2012 9:54 am

    I have seen one off examples of other patterns considered for use in Ireland.They were not really "trials" as that implies some volume use and testing. I suspect that this pattern, like the others, was a "sample" to see how it looked when made up. The only patterns I have seen which were produced in volume were the French CE pattern, in small numbers, and the current issued pattern. I have seen other one offs from Seyntex, which played around with the design of the garment, not the pattern

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    Post by CollectinSteve on Thu May 24, 2012 10:09 am

    Cool! Thanks for that info. Definitely makes that jacket worth more than commercial prices.

    Come to think of it, Seyntex has a history of this. I have pics of German Flecktarn being used in a Belgian style Denison. I'm not talking about the outdated Belgian Airforce Flecktarn, which is distinctly different, but current German Flecktarn. I also have pics of a standard issue Bundeswehr parka shell in Belgian Jigsaw.

    Curious!!

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    Post by fourtycoats on Thu May 24, 2012 7:45 pm

    I think that both of these photos came from me as I have these items . One of my best sources of such items lives in Belgium and regularly deals with Seyntex

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    Post by panzerwerk on Thu May 24, 2012 8:15 pm

    So maybe just a sample ?? Very Cool !!!

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    Re: Irish pattern?

    Post by saltefanden on Fri May 25, 2012 8:08 am

    Fourtycoats, would that be Marc in Belgium? Can he find stuff like that?

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    Re: Irish pattern?

    Post by fourtycoats on Fri May 25, 2012 11:27 am

    The main man I get my Seyntex stuff from is Pascal.

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    Post by saltefanden on Fri May 25, 2012 12:15 pm

    Have not made Pascals aqquaintance, but do kiss and tell Wink


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    Post by fourtycoats on Fri May 25, 2012 5:07 pm

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    Re: Irish pattern?

    Post by qckid on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:57 am

    Hi all. I bought the set in Belgium direct from a guy who has access to the seyntex factory so I know its real. An Irish friend told me it was a one off custom made copy that was passed to the Irish but they rejected it.

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    Re: Irish pattern?

    Post by CollectinSteve on Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:48 am

    Thanks for stopping by with that! As I posted a ways up, I have seen other Seyntex "one offs" too. So it all makes sense to me. We also know Seyntex is (or is it was?) an official contractor for the Irish gov't.

    On a personal note, many of us have probably bought a thing or two from you over the years, so thanks for that too. Always good to see a familiar face (virtually speaking!)

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    Re: Irish pattern?

    Post by fourtycoats on Sat Dec 22, 2012 4:53 pm

    qckid wrote:Hi all. I bought the set in Belgium direct from a guy who has access to the seyntex factory so I know its real. An Irish friend told me it was a one off custom made copy that was passed to the Irish but they rejected it.

    Hello John, nice to see you on here. I hope you have some nice goodies in store for when I see you in Malvern in March.

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