Model 95 (Schuberth B826). Jigsaw cover.

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    Model 95 (Schuberth B826). Jigsaw cover.

    Post by Easy Gee on Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:15 pm

    Hi, Here's a Model 95 (Schuberth B826) Jigsaw Pattern cover.Standard Helmet cover for the Belgium forces.This Helmet was introduced from 1995, so odd the cover pre-dates this !
    I am also curious about the sticker with remnants of the owners name on the rear of the cover, what's the significance anyone know Question


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    Post by CollectinSteve on Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:44 am

    A difficult cover to find! The earlier ones, for steel pots, are even more problematic.

    No idea about the sticker. Paras in training often have helmets with big numbers painted on them, so maybe this was similar? I've sent an email to see if my friend in the Para/CDO can give an answer.

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    Re: Model 95 (Schuberth B826). Jigsaw cover.

    Post by Easy Gee on Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:21 pm

    CollectinSteve wrote:A difficult cover to find! The earlier ones, for steel pots, are even more problematic.

    No idea about the sticker. Paras in training often have helmets with big numbers painted on them, so maybe this was similar? I've sent an email to see if my friend in the Para/CDO can give an answer.

    Steve


    Thanks for looking Steve, and I too asume the sticker must have been some sort of training thing,it's hard to tell in my photo but I believe the sticker would have originally been Orange, so easily Identifiable in the field and too training staff!!

    I look forward to your future info regarding this , and appreciate your efforts.

    Thanks a again Mate. Very Happy

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    Post by CollectinSteve on Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:05 pm

    My friend emailed back. He said sometimes the top cover in a box has a sticker on it saying how may are in the box. The other possibility is that the soldier put it on there so he could find it easier when helmets are all piled up. If it was a bright orange, to me that makes the most sense. He said this sort of thing is not done for exercises.

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    Re: Model 95 (Schuberth B826). Jigsaw cover.

    Post by Easy Gee on Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:33 pm

    CollectinSteve wrote:My friend emailed back. He said sometimes the top cover in a box has a sticker on it saying how may are in the box. The other possibility is that the soldier put it on there so he could find it easier when helmets are all piled up. If it was a bright orange, to me that makes the most sense. He said this sort of thing is not done for exercises.

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    Great info Steve, again many thanks for taking the trouble to find out this invaluable information.

    I believe the sticker has the remnants of the owners name on it, so identifying his or her lid amongst many others makes sense,thanks again Steve,much appreciated Very Happy

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    Re: Model 95 (Schuberth B826). Jigsaw cover.

    Post by Guest on Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:24 pm

    hi gary here's mine also dated 1994 but alas no writing on mine cheers james

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    Re: Model 95 (Schuberth B826). Jigsaw cover.

    Post by Easy Gee on Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:57 pm

    Nice one Jaycee,is yours elasticated around the bottom with three point velcro straps, the reason I ask ,is I'm trying to work out if there are different versions?

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    Re: Model 95 (Schuberth B826). Jigsaw cover.

    Post by Guest on Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:23 pm

    hi gary yes you are correct it has 3 velcro fixing strap not unlike the us pasgt covers ,here she sits on my Schuberth B826

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    Re: Model 95 (Schuberth B826). Jigsaw cover.

    Post by Easy Gee on Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:31 pm

    Cool, nice one James Wink

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    Re: Model 95 (Schuberth B826). Jigsaw cover.

    Post by Guest on Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:54 pm

    hi gary as you say these covers are dated 1994 so im wondering if they were fitted to the earlier steel helmets this referance pic shows a cover fitted to this m71 and it looks very similar in design

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    Re: Model 95 (Schuberth B826). Jigsaw cover.

    Post by CollectinSteve on Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:25 pm

    The earlier covers didn't have the velcro securing tabs, so I think not. And when used the liner's screws were usually put through the cloth, leaving nasty holes in it when removed. I just got a helmet with bits of helmet cover still secured under the screw heads. To remove the cover they just sliced it off. I can't tell for sure, but it looks like your example was removed this way.

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    Re: Model 95 (Schuberth B826). Jigsaw cover.

    Post by Easy Gee on Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:18 pm

    Hi Steve and James, these covers are becoming more and more interesting,I found some info regarding the Jigsaw covers.

    This covers the 95 model

    http://www.world-war-helmets.com/fiche.php?q=Casque-Belge-Mle-95

    This covers the M51.

    http://www.world-war-helmets.com/fiche.php?q=Casque-Belge-Mle-51




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    Re: Model 95 (Schuberth B826). Jigsaw cover.

    Post by cairyhunt on Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:57 pm

    ive got one and it's a perfect fit on the good old MK6

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    Post by CollectinSteve on Wed Jul 18, 2012 1:30 am

    BTW, I was just digging through my helmet covers looking for something and I found a couple of my Belgian covers. I have a Jigsaw cover designed to fit a "Fritz" style helmet, complete with 3 velcro straps. Dated 1990. Remember, this was the timeframe when only Para/CDO units regularly wore camouflage. I don't know when the Belgian Army first started using Kevlar helmets, but I'm sure these guys would be the first to use them.

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    Post by Gulf91 on Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:38 am

    I have a mint unissued one but unfortunately no label and cannot find traces/evidence of there having been one??

    ALso please where or how do those 3 velcro strips attach to the helmet?

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    Post by CollectinSteve on Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:21 am

    Look very carefully along the seam for some traces of white. Belgian covers, in my experience, always have labels. But a lack of a label doesn't concern me as I don't know of anybody faking this stuff.

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    Post by CollectinSteve on Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:23 am

    Whoops! Wrong thread. Nothing to see here... Very Happy

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    Re: Model 95 (Schuberth B826). Jigsaw cover.

    Post by Gulf91 on Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:57 am

    CollectinSteve wrote:Look very carefully along the seam for some traces of white. Belgian covers, in my experience, always have labels. But a lack of a label doesn't concern me as I don't know of anybody faking this stuff.

    Steve

    First thing i did Steve was go over it with a fine toothcomb and no traces or remains at all of any label.


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    Post by Guest on Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:05 am

    some superb links gary im wondering how to translate to "anglais" and gulf i fitted mine single tab to rear and 2 tabs up front if tha\t helps cheers james

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    Re: Model 95 (Schuberth B826). Jigsaw cover.

    Post by Easy Gee on Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:49 pm

    CollectinSteve wrote:BTW, I was just digging through my helmet covers looking for something and I found a couple of my Belgian covers. I have a Jigsaw cover designed to fit a "Fritz" style helmet, complete with 3 velcro straps. Dated 1990. Remember, this was the timeframe when only Para/CDO units regularly wore camouflage. I don't know when the Belgian Army first started using Kevlar helmets, but I'm sure these guys would be the first to use them.

    Steve


    Again this adds even more interest to these covers and their usage Steve,and to my knowledge it was 1995 when the Belgium's starting wearing the Kevlar lids. Maybe the Para's trialed the Kevlar lids a few years prior to the rest of the ABL.

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    Post by Easy Gee on Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:51 pm

    jaycee wrote:some superb links gary im wondering how to translate to "anglais" and gulf i fitted mine single tab to rear and 2 tabs up front if tha\t helps cheers james


    James If you use google chrome, there is an excellent Translation facility.


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    Post by flashesandovals on Wed Jul 09, 2014 7:48 am

    CollectinSteve wrote:BTW, I was just digging through my helmet covers looking for something and I found a couple of my Belgian covers.  I have a Jigsaw cover designed to fit a "Fritz" style helmet, complete with 3 velcro straps.  Dated 1990. Remember, this was the timeframe when only Para/CDO units regularly wore camouflage.  I don't know when the Belgian Army first started using Kevlar helmets, but I'm sure these guys would be the first to use them.

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    We were first issued the Schubert in 1992/1993 when deploying to Somalia.
    We only got a blue UN cover with a string and NO letters. There was NO camouflage cover when we got the helmets.
    We turned the helmets in after the operations and I think They issued us new ones in 1994, this time WITH cammo covers.

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    Re: Model 95 (Schuberth B826). Jigsaw cover.

    Post by static on Mon Jul 28, 2014 6:08 am

    Bonjour,

    Vous avez retrouvé mon couvre casque
    je m'appelle Didier GIORGETTI, sous-officier à l'armée belge
    je suis militaire depuis 1983 et je travaille maintenant à Bastogne en Belgique
    j'ai rendu mon équipement de combat en 2010 depuis que je travaille à Bastogne Barracks

    ce couvre casque a été porté lors de ma mission au kosovo en 2002
    l'autocollant sur le couvre casque est un détecteur NBC pour les agent chimiques liquides.

    Quelle coïncidence de retrouver mon couvre casque vendu par l'armée
    je suis curieux de savoir comment il a attéri chez vous et où il se trouve exactement

    bonne journée

    Hello there,

    You found my helmet covers
    I'm Didier GIORGETTI, NCO at Belgian Army
    I am a soldier since 1983 and I am now working at Bastogne in Belgium
    I made my combat equipment in 2010 since I work in Bastogne Barracks

    this covers helmet was worn during my mission in kosovo in 2002
    the sticker on the helmet cover is a NBC detector for liquid chemical agent.

    What a coincidence to find my helmet covers sold by the army
    I'm curious how he landed home and where it is exactly

    have a nice day

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    Re: Model 95 (Schuberth B826). Jigsaw cover.

    Post by CollectinSteve on Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:37 pm

    That is too funny!!!

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    Post by flashesandovals on Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:15 am

    CollectinSteve wrote:That is too funny!!!

    Steve

    I met Didier last week in Bastogne and told him about the photo on the forum...I only know one person by the name of Giorgetti.

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