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    Post by Gulf91 on Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:38 am

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    Post by Gulf91 on Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:43 am

    Sorry for the poor pics,trying to get them up before I shoot off to work.
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    Post by John Brown on Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:10 pm

    Hard to tell from the pix, but isn't that the ACU pattern?
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    Post by Gulf91 on Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:16 pm

    I do apologise for the rubbish pics but pretty sure its USAF Tiger pattern?
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    Post by John Brown on Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:26 pm

    Gulf91 wrote:I do apologise for the rubbish pics but pretty sure its USAF Tiger pattern?
    I may be old, but I'm not that dunderheaded, yet Smile

    ACU (Army Combat Uniform) pattern is the design for a specific garment type instituted by and primarily used by the U. S. Army.

    UCP (Universal Camouflage Pattern) is the camouflage pattern used with the ACU pattern (Multicam is also used with the ACU pattern).

    "ACU" is not a camouflage description.

    ACU pattern:
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    The garment you picture appears to be an ACU produced in the Air Force's digital tiger stripe camouflage pattern.
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    Post by Gulf91 on Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:54 pm

    John,in that case Im the dumbass as around here all US Army items in the digicam type cam is referred to as ACU EG ACU helmet cover,ACU vest etc.

    Sorry for any confusion.
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    Post by Camo_fiend on Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:06 pm

    Gulf91 wrote:John,in that case Im the dumbass as around here all US Army items in the digicam type cam is referred to as ACU EG ACU helmet cover,ACU vest etc.

    Sorry for any confusion.
    That's how most people refer to them... I know that UCP is the official designation for that pattern, but for what it's worth, I've never heard anyone refer to anything as UCP. All the soldiers I know just say ACU "X" (be it vest, hat, trousers, goretex, etc.), as everyone knows what it means. ACU has colloquially come to mean the pattern itself.

    I know first-hand that no one in the Air Force calls our camo digital tiger stripe, we just say ABUs and ABU-patterned whatever. Just like no one calls the "OEF Camo Pattern" by its name of OCP, we just call them MultiCams. Laughing


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    Post by Gulf91 on Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:42 am

    Camo_fiend wrote:
    Gulf91 wrote:John,in that case Im the dumbass as around here all US Army items in the digicam type cam is referred to as ACU EG ACU helmet cover,ACU vest etc.

    Sorry for any confusion.
    That's how most people refer to them... I know that UCP is the official designation for that pattern, but for what it's worth, I've never heard anyone refer to anything as UCP. All the soldiers I know just say ACU "X" (be it vest, hat, trousers, goretex, etc.), as everyone knows what it means. ACU has colloquially come to mean the pattern itself.

    I know first-hand that no one in the Air Force calls our camo digital tiger stripe, we just say ABUs and ABU-patterned whatever. Just like no one calls the "OEF Camo Pattern" by its name of OCP, we just call them MultiCams. Laughing

    Cheers Ben,so Im not a dumbass after all Razz Razz
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    Post by John Brown on Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:47 pm

    Like my momma used to tell me: "If Bobby and Janie call black people [ethnic slurs], does that make it okay for you to call them that, too?"

    Language skills are important, as we've just witnessed.


    When the Army finalizes their decision for a new camo, and starts producing ACUs in the new pattern, is the UCP still going to be described as "ACU"?

    I guess that since this is military gear board, I'd hoped that folks would know the difference between ACU and UCP, and not just lump it together like they do on Facebook and other places where the users don't know much (if at all) about camouflage or military subjects while ignorantly running their mouths about it.

    I'm on a Kalashnikov enthusiast's board, and we give the guys there a hard time that call everything ever produced at a Kalashnikov plant an "AK-47". On that board, we expect folks to know the difference.

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    Now, back on topic: Who would be issued this type of garment? Pilots? Aircrew?

    Can we get some better pix?
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    Post by Gulf91 on Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:28 pm

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    Post by Camo_fiend on Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:30 pm

    I'm telling you from first hand experience that soldiers call it ACU in reference to the pattern and not the cut of uniform. They also still know the difference. Yes, it's not technically correct, but there's enough acronyms and everyone knows what it is, and their jargon reflects that. People called the old camo BDUs, not M81 Woodland Camouflage, it's just easier than using two terms for the same thing.


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    Post by saltefanden on Fri Oct 19, 2012 1:00 pm

    Not to stir anything, but how would one go about referring to the 'AF digital tigerstripe' camo on ABU's?
    Is it called just that, as I believe ABU, like ACU, would be the cut and type of the USAF uniform?

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    Post by Camo_fiend on Fri Oct 19, 2012 4:06 pm

    The proper designation for the Air Force camo pattern is s***, erm, digital tiger stripe, yes. Laughing The style is ABU (which in terms of cut aside from a couple extra pockets) is nearly identical to the layout of the old BDUs.

    But we just call it ABU "X", be it hat, parka, trousers, etc. It refers to pattern, and the uniform all in one. A universal term, I guess.


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    Post by saltefanden on Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:04 pm

    Cheers Ben, and no worries, I suspected as much Very Happy

    I've had a hard time designating all my 'native' camo schemes correctly myself; I guess I was looking for the quick fix to all things ABU... Thanks again!
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    Post by Kan on Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:17 pm

    Very nice find, I've seen a pic or two of these, but never en-mass. I believe flight surgeons wore these at one point, or other airborne medical personnel. Where did you come across this at?
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    Post by sh4pak on Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:23 pm

    Hmmmm.... "antistatic" fiber-content. That piques my curiosity, as I have not run across it, yet.

    Possibly EOD?
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    Post by John Brown on Mon Oct 22, 2012 1:59 pm

    sh4pak wrote:Hmmmm.... "antistatic" fiber-content. That piques my curiosity, as I have not run across it, yet.

    Possibly EOD?
    More likely for aviation fuel handlers.

    Sparks can touch off spilled fuel (on sleeve cuffs, for instance)
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    Post by Kan on Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:50 am

    Fuel handlers typically wear a coverall when fueling, as I've been told by a POL buddy of mine. A good general thing to go by is if you see more velcro than for a rank tab or name tape USAF wise, it didn't belong to a regular airman.
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    Post by Gulf91 on Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:24 pm

    Kan wrote:Fuel handlers typically wear a coverall when fueling, as I've been told by a POL buddy of mine. A good general thing to go by is if you see more velcro than for a rank tab or name tape USAF wise, it didn't belong to a regular airman.

    Not being that clued up USAF wise,what is a regular airman?

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    Post by Kan on Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:27 pm

    Maintainers, Office guys, and the like.
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    Post by Gulf91 on Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:37 pm

    Kan wrote:Maintainers, Office guys, and the like.

    Thanks for the clarification.

    So it looks more than likely pilot,Aircrew etc?
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    Post by Kan on Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:38 pm

    As I brought up above, yes. The few pics I've seen of these are them being worn by aircrew medical personnel.

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