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    Post by bond007a1 Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:12 pm

    OK...here are a few photos I found on YAHOO...someone please explain a few things to me....

    1st...why does this guy have a 3rd ID & 25th ID patch on his arm & a 4th ID on his helmet?????? and the other guy has a 10th mountain on his helmet????

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    2nd...on this blackhawk crewmember...what is the Darth vader thing over his face...mouth/nose area??

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    Post by bond007a1 Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:17 pm

    oh...and here are US guys in DCU's......how odd is that..the photo was taken the last day or 2...

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    and here is the top US commander Michael Mullen in Pakistan wearing DCU's.....

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    Post by bond007a1 Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:22 pm

    nevermind on #4...I realized he is with the NAVY...hence the DCU's.....

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    Post by nkomo Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:12 pm

    bond007a1 wrote:OK...here are a few photos I found on YAHOO...someone please explain a few things to me....

    1st...why does this guy have a 3rd ID & 25th ID patch on his arm & a 4th ID on his helmet?????? and the other guy has a 10th mountain on his helmet????

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    2nd...on this blackhawk crewmember...what is the Darth vader thing over his face...mouth/nose area??

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    The first picture.......air-softers????? jocolor


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    Post by bond007a1 Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:27 pm

    Arch..that is actually troops in Iraq I believe....not airsofters...


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    Post by CollectinSteve Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:34 pm

    Airsofters playing in Iraq with a weapons cache like that? Very Happy

    The badging is quite odd. There's a bunch of other oddities. The guy in the middle is apparently wearing a modified DCU with ACU patches and ACU side plates on his Interceptor Body Armor.

    What it looks like is the middle guy is a soldier from 4th ID (shame we can't see his left shoulder!) with his previous unit being 25 ID, and probably the unit before that 3rd ID. It's against regs to wear two unit badges on the right arm, even if the soldier belonged to two units (in action for 30 days or longer) which qualify as "Shoulder sleeve insignia-former wartime service (SSI–FWTS)". The regs say the soldier is allowed to choose which to wear.

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    Post by Mercenary25 Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:19 pm

    Maybe they are just patch whores. Found some in-country made patches in PX and just patch them up to look cool?

    That "Darth Vader mask" is helicopter crew mask. It provide facial protection. I forgot what name of this helmet but I remember people talked about it on MP.net.

    Michael Mullen in DCU may be old picture. Press is well-known for using old pictures or videos. I've seen recent news using early OIF footages because soldiers were wearing DCUs and woodland interceptor body armors.


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    Post by nkomo Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:33 pm

    Guys....my comment about the guys being air-softers was a JOKE!!!! Jeez.....lighten up fellers!

    In all seriousness, that picture is odd for several reasons. Besides the obvious multiple patches on the DCU's...the 3rd ID shoulder sleeve insignia is at an odd angle. It is not set right. I am wondering if this might have been an operation that had several different divisions working together and all the patches were shown for a photo oppurtunity. Who knows.
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    Post by swag Fri May 01, 2009 12:52 am

    The Vader mask is a Maxillofacial Shield. A buddy of mine in Iraq actually had his face shield airbrushed with Vader's mask, it was pretty bad ass looking.
    Mercenary25 is correct; it is for facial protection. It also helps reduce wind noise across the microphone when the crew members stick their head outside during flight or when they are standing under the rotor disk during ground ops.


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    Post by CollectinSteve Fri May 01, 2009 2:40 pm

    Now THERE is an expensive bit of gear to have on your kitchen table Smile

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    Post by Mercenary25 Mon May 11, 2009 10:35 am

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    Cool paint job on face mask!


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    Post by Mercenary25 Mon May 11, 2009 10:37 am

    ARGHH! Picture is not working. Mad


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