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    Gulf91
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    Camo ID Needed Please.

    Post by Gulf91 on Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:06 pm

    Any ideas please on what country this pattern is from?

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    Re: Camo ID Needed Please.

    Post by saltefanden on Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:45 pm

    Looks very much like an early Norwegian shelter half.
    Very crisp and vibrant colours!

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    Re: Camo ID Needed Please.

    Post by Gulf91 on Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:48 pm

    Thanks.

    Common,easily available or scarce?

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    Post by saltefanden on Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:34 am

    I have a few myself in good condition, which I all found relatively easy on eBay or through members on this very forum, but I wouldn't call them common either.

    There are two types of Norwegian shelterhalf camo's, as far as I know, though both are in the same colour scheme, the one (first?) is in a more square and defined pattern, or 'squiggly', as Mr. CollectinSteve called it, like Italian M29 or German M31 Zeltbahn's, the other (later?) is a softer and more organic pattern, like yours.

    In fact, maybe afforementioned Mr. Steve can shed some more concrete light on this; I simply collect, he's the nerd Very Happy

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    Post by Gulf91 on Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:55 am

    Think I might have one of the earlier types but is very faded so hard to make out.

    The pics arent of mine but of one that is for sale.


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    Re: Camo ID Needed Please.

    Post by CollectinSteve on Fri Feb 01, 2013 1:45 pm

    That is what I consider to be the best coloration you can get for that particular pattern. Nice.

    Triangular (like German style) = Swedish
    Diamond (unlike anybody else) = Norwegian

    The Swedish types were, and in some places, very common. Surplus dealers here in the US were selling them in 4 packs for a while for pretty cheap money. Buuuuuut... to collectors this isn't such a great thing because the color variations are wild. Some are so dark you can barely tell there are different colors! Others, like yours, are beautifully contrasting. Condition usually is pretty good, but I have had a few that were significantly damaged.

    I'd say overall the highly contrasting ones are less common than the very dark ones. I have no idea if there is much correlation to date, if any. As far as I know the Swedish ones were made in the 1940s and, I think, the Norwegians got theirs after the war.

    This pattern was also used for Norwegian diamond shaped shelter quarters. Those are quite rare and I've never seen it in triangular form. As saltefanden noted there is also a "Squiggle" pattern in this style. Again, quite a lot of color variations. I have one that the two main sections are very differently colored.

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    Re: Camo ID Needed Please.

    Post by Gulf91 on Fri Feb 01, 2013 1:51 pm

    Thanks for the replies.

    So worth buying if not too expensive?

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    Post by CollectinSteve on Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:18 pm

    Certainly looks like a nice one to go for if you're looking to expand your shelter half/quarter collection. I'd not want to spend more than $20 on this one, but we all have our own senses of value.

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    Re: Camo ID Needed Please.

    Post by saltefanden on Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:36 pm

    Yes, thank you for your response Steve, but bother; aren't the Swedish triangular shelter halves universally grey, green and brown in large splotshes, and the Norwegian ones unique in sporting the blueish and tan colours too.

    In other words; are the pictures Gulf's shown not of a Norwegian pattern?

    Sorry to hijack your thread Gulf...

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    Post by CollectinSteve on Fri Feb 01, 2013 6:22 pm

    As far as I know all the triangular ones are Swedish, all the diamond ones are Norwegian. There are all sorts of different colorations. Check this out:



    Now, having looked at Gulf's example a little more closely, it does seem a little different. There's more overlap with the colors and they seem rounder. I don't know what to make of that.

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    Re: Camo ID Needed Please.

    Post by Gulf91 on Sat Feb 02, 2013 4:48 am

    Thanks guys,very interesting and also a bit confusing as well!!!

    Its for sale at around $20,dont collect shelter halfs as such it was just the colours that took my eye.


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    Post by CollectinSteve on Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:55 pm

    I'd grab it if I were you. Good trade material if nothing else.

    I wish my shelter quarter/halves were more accessible because now that I look at it I think I remember having a Norwegian shelter like this. I can't tell from the picture, but it's possible that it's diamond shaped. In which case it is Norwegian.

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