Need some help IDing Portuguese items

Hopefully someone can help me ID these items.  For the trousers I'm trying to figure out what jackets they are paired to and possible age range.

1.  Trousers with one pocket on left leg and very odd horizontally stitched knee reinforcements (not really padded):




2.  Similar to the previous one except for the knee stitching:




3.  Near exact copy of TAP 47/53 trousers:




4.  This is a pretty standard Dolma jacket cut, but the cloth is horizontal Lizard like French pattern camo:



Any help appreciated!

Steve

I believe the first trousers are M962s. These were worn with the regular shirt and dolman, IIRC.
Never seen the second one, but it looks like an M962 without the stitching.
3rd trousers were used by Portuguese Marines and do follow the French TAP style.
The smock looks like TAP as well..
Jacket ( Dolman ) looks commercial. I once had trousers to match it.

That is my 2 Cents..

Thanks Rip!

I thought I had an older TAP style set somewhere, but the one I have is much more recent. The one TAP style jacket I have is a bit on the yellow side and the cloth feels different. Different vintage I suppose.

Yeah, I'm guessing that jacket is commercial as well. One of the regular contractors for Portuguese military items got a hold of some surplus cloth and banged out some items for the commercial market.

Thanks!

Steve

There are 2 types of Portuguese Marines Lizard uniform.
One used during their counterinsurgency operations in Portugal's African colonies, the other is post colonial .



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ripcord wrote:There are 2 types of Portuguese Marines Lizard uniform.
One used during their counterinsurgency operations in Portugal's African colonies, the other is post colonial .



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Interesting. The trousers I posted are HBT and look somewhat old. The yellowish/brown jacket I have is smooth cotton and looks to be quite old. Which means I have two orphans looking for some buddies!

Steve

Finally got my hands on my own  M962 trousers.





                                        



                                                                                                             

Nice! Funny enough, last night I was looking at my mystery M962 trousers that do not have the knee reinforcements. I looked VERY carefully and can now see signs of the stitching being removed. Very odd! It took quite a bit of effort to carefully all those stitches removed. So mystery (mostly) solved.

Last week I also found I have a very old M962 Dolman jacket. It has padding on the shoulders and the elbows, whereas newer ones just have reinforcement material. Is there a known date when padded material ceased being used?

Steve

I've seen photos of similar trousers with stitching further apart to form thicker looking knee reinforcements... Very early those.. Most likely, the padded garments were discontinued as the M964 came on line, but I am certain old stock continued to be issued until exhausted.