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    Post by jimmyduncan23 on Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:06 am

    Early Northern Alliance/ANA lizard

    Early Taliban then ANA Pakistan leaf



    Early ANA US type woodland uniform

    ANA Digital forest






    Afghan police ANP uniform
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    Post by CollectinSteve on Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:29 am

    Excellent collection of Afghan stuff! I don't think I've seen a woodland set like that in a collector's hands. Good one. Could be Chinese made? Certainly the Chinese had Woodland during that timeframe and the print looks similar.

    I'm curious about the Chinese cut of the NA cloth. These were readily available for a period of time. I had 2 or 3, all sourced from China. I've never seen any evidence of them being used in Afghanistan. As was common at the time, surplus runs of cloth from legitimate contracts were made into PLA cut uniforms and sold commercially.

    I had one legitimate set of NA and it was in a traditional ME style 2 pocket shirt and trousers. Based on a few pictures I think it's consistent with that one.

    So the question is... do you know for sure that your jacket was used in Afghanistan? It wouldn't surprise me too much, it's just that up until now I've not seen any evidence that it was.

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    Post by nkomo on Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:18 pm

    Great stuff, sir. Looks like your woodland set is the same as the set I posted back in 2012.

    I originally thought it was an early ANA pattern, but was told it was Taliban era camouflage. I have always wondered if these were ever used by the early ANA.

    Link: http://iacmc.forumotion.com/t7581-early-ana-woodland-camouflage-
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    Post by jimmyduncan23 on Fri Aug 23, 2013 12:55 am

    As far as I am aware yes it was used by early ANA, the woodland and Taliban leaf uniforms came from the same ANA officer and worn by him, maybe not i'm mass use by ANA but was as a time.
    Steve with the NA lizard I have seen many different cuts of them used in photos and this is a jacket not a shirt, has Chinese stamps so could be just Chinese.
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    Post by CollectinSteve on Sat Aug 24, 2013 1:04 am

    It's a standard Chinese Type 9x (where x = a specific year of the design) jacket design. There were a few variations and I don't remember what the differences are, but either way it's a standard PLA cut. As far as I know this cut was not exported to other nations, though it was widely used as a commercial uniform using surplus cloth. All have PLA type markings, though someone who knows the details of those markings (not me!) can see that they are not PLA.

    The Chinese wore this as a standard top without anything, or just an undershirt, worn beneath.

    I think I have sold/traded all of my Chinese cut uniforms in the NA pattern, but I did check some pictures and yours is the same type as mine.

    If you have a picture of this exact cut being used in Afghanistan that would be cool to see. I've tried to find one and so far haven't.

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    Post by vonstuck on Sat Aug 24, 2013 5:55 pm



    Chinese soldiers in training with this pattern
    The only garment in this pattern that received the north aliance after September 11, 2001 are cap shirt pant and parka
    See my website, the parka is same cut than the parka of the second pattern
    http://vonstuckcamouflage.free.fr/afghanistan.php
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    Post by CollectinSteve on Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:40 am

    Interesting. They don't appear to be wearing the same jacket. The left sleeve should have two fairly easy to see loops on it, and I don't see it. Also, if the colors of the picture can be believed this is a more yellow version that was used for uniforms made by Rothco. Standard BDU cut with epaulettes, IIRC. I might even have one of those around.

    Maybe this picture is for Airsoft or something other than actual military use?

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    Post by CollectinSteve on Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:29 pm

    Yes, that looks like a TV show to me. The other pictures show the right arm, which clearly is not the uniform that started this discussion. There's a buttoned pocket there instead of the snap pocket.

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    Post by jimmyduncan23 on Sun Feb 23, 2014 8:51 am

    ANCOP Afghanistan uniform new!!

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    Post by Toasted Skittle on Sat Jun 14, 2014 10:28 pm

    Nice seeing something new, thanks for sharing that ABP uniform! Very Happy
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    Re: Afghanistan Army/police uniforms

    Post by Camo-collector1951 on Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:37 pm

    Another nice uniform Jimmy, I like the brown woodlands pattern.

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