Mylle's Austrian Stuff

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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by mylle on Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:11 pm

    Even If I don't collect helmets, I thought I should have at least one Austrian army steelhelmet.




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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by ripcord on Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:28 pm

    Have to love that net..

    Looks great Alex.. Is that a dedicated camo helmet cover or ???



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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by mylle on Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:54 pm

    Yeah Its a cool piece, the camo cover was made out of a shelter-half.Common practice.

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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by ripcord on Tue Dec 22, 2015 6:42 pm

    Very nice...

    A couple of my Italian helmets have covers made of spare hoods... As you said, common practice in the old days..


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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by mylle on Tue Dec 22, 2015 7:23 pm

    I took some more detailed pics and also found another Austrian helmet, with grey color, the OD one was repainted I think.















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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by CollectinSteve on Wed Dec 23, 2015 4:10 am

    If you're going to have something you don't normally collect, it should be nice. And you definitely have that with this helmet and cover combination! Very nice!

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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by mylle on Fri Dec 25, 2015 7:38 pm

    Another piece of stuff I usually don't collect- unused messenger/map-bag.

    Amazing fresh condition- like from the factory.








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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by austromunga on Sat Dec 26, 2015 10:05 am

    Nice condition on that map case!! I have a couple also.. one is like yours..... factory fresh!!
    bought mine from an AIRSOFT WWII cosplay dealer of all places!! Laughing
    usual story " These are WW II german"!!
    so I tentatively asked the price..... expecting a silly answer!!
    " £15 mate!!!!"
    well for that..... I snapped it up!!!.. as I had recently previously paid nearly £20 inc post for a well used example!!! Rolling Eyes

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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by mylle on Sun Feb 07, 2016 5:06 pm

    Found this nice current date pic on the Austrian Bundesheer homepage.It seems that the experimental KAZ 03 digi woodland stuff is still used ...Maybe something changed with the new minister....

    http://www.bundesheer.at/misc/image_popup/ImageTool.php?strAdresse=/pool/img/20160203_083858.jpg&intSeite=1680&intHoehe=1050&intMaxSeite=1680&intMaxHoehe=995&blnFremd=1

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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by ripcord on Sun Feb 07, 2016 5:23 pm

    Would be nice if they decided to produce them for general / SOF issue.

    Would be great for those of us who are envying you.. pirat Very Happy pirat



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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by mylle on Sun Feb 28, 2016 5:23 pm

    KAZ 59 parka with intact border guard patch:






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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by CollectinSteve on Sun Feb 28, 2016 10:54 pm

    Cool! The eagle diving to the right is until 1968, so what is the age of the jacket? Is the stitching straight or zig-zag? I have both the 1st and 2nd type badges and I'm thinking of putting it on a jacket. Did the border guard use M69 uniforms at all?

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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by vonstuck on Mon Feb 29, 2016 1:29 pm

    http://vonstuckcamouflage.free.fr/austria.php
    My jacket with same patch is 1960
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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by mylle on Mon Feb 29, 2016 3:35 pm

    Mine is from 1962 and yes the right looking eagle was used till 1968.
    I mostly saw the borde guard patch on KAZ 59 parkas but also 1 time one a pic on an KAZ 69 jacket.

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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by austromunga on Mon Feb 29, 2016 3:51 pm

    Hey Alex another nice addition!!! I wonder.... is the eagle facing the wrong way??? as yours is worn on the left arm... I thought that the early, 1st type was worn on the right arm... then the later second type was issued after the decision to position the patch on the left (so the eagles would always face forward!!???)..

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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by mylle on Mon Feb 29, 2016 3:59 pm

    Thanks Paul, well I only saw the patch on the left sleeve, never on the right one.No matter which eagle patch version.

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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by austromunga on Mon Feb 29, 2016 7:00 pm

    Hi Alex

    I knew I had seen it on another forum Wehrmacht awards.. by BERNHARD very much considered an expert in the field...
    this is what he wrote...


    The Grenzschutz shield was the first official patch introduced in the Bundesheer.
    The date : December 4 , 1961 .

    The shield was designed to be worn on the soldiers right shoulder.

    On November 25 ,1967 a new order regulated the wear of badges for the
    Bundesheer ; from this date the shoulder patches have to be worn on the wearers left shoulder.

    Suddenly the good old Grenzadler looked into the wrong direction if the patch would be worn on the left shoulder.....

    so does this mean the early type were just transferred over.... facing the wrong way!!??

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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by mylle on Mon Feb 29, 2016 7:16 pm

    Well that sounds interesting Paul, heard that for the first time.Maybe they used the early type one
    also after the second one was issued. Money was always low in the Austrian army. Laughing Laughing
    Maybe the same way the used every camo KAZ typ clothing mixed up.

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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by austromunga on Mon Feb 29, 2016 7:33 pm

    Yes I would say that's a completely plausible theory... is there any evidence on your example of the patch having been removed from the right side at all!??? sometimes the remnants of stitching are more visible on the inside.... or held up to a bright light source..(I have used this method to great effect in the past!!) but wouldn't that be just too good to be true!!!

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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by mylle on Mon Feb 29, 2016 7:44 pm

    There are no signs of stitching on the right sleeve.Just checked it, the patch was sewn on professionally and the thread looks  old.

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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by austromunga on Mon Feb 29, 2016 8:10 pm

    Worth a look tho eh!! its a great parka anyways... kinda makes me want to put my early and late Grenzshutz patches on parkas!!!

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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by mylle on Wed Mar 02, 2016 3:08 pm

    Finally found a KAZ 03 tanker jacket/blouson.Not easy to get.








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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by austromunga on Wed Mar 02, 2016 4:10 pm

    Nice find Alex!!! must admit have not even seen one before your post!!! Surprised !!!

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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by CollectinSteve on Wed Mar 02, 2016 9:03 pm

    mylle wrote:Well that sounds interesting Paul, heard that for the first time.Maybe they used the early type one
    also after the second one was issued. Money was always low in the Austrian army. Laughing Laughing
    Maybe the same way the used every  camo KAZ typ clothing mixed up.

    My guess is the same as yours. The parka was reissued to the border guard from "old stock", not from brand new supplies. Possibly even worn by soldiers already. I assume the parka has the HBA stamp in it, yes? If so then for sure it came from military stocks and therefore this theory is probably a good one. If it does not have HBA stamp then things get more complicated Very Happy

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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by mylle on Thu Mar 03, 2016 1:59 pm

    My parka has the HBA stamp so it came from army stocks for sure.

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