Mylle's Austrian Stuff

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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by CollectinSteve on Thu Mar 03, 2016 2:56 pm

    Yup, that's what I figured. So really, any date is legitimate. I'm guessing the Border Guard put in an order for X of this size, Y of that size, Z of this size, etc. and that is what the military delivered. They would be selecting for size and possibly condition, not date. Only us collectors are that fussy Wink

    Nice tanker jacket! I assume there are special trousers as well?

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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by mylle on Thu Mar 03, 2016 7:01 pm

    Here is a pic of soldiers with the tanker jacket, they seem to have specific pants without leg pocket flaps.But I also saw soldiers
    wearing this jacket with the normal KAZ 03 pants,maybe Philip knows more.

    http://www.bundesheer.at/misc/image_popup/ImageTool.php?strAdresse=/pool/img/20160127_085444.jpg&intSeite=1680&intHoehe=1050&intMaxSeite=1680&intMaxHoehe=995&blnFremd=0

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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by mylle on Thu Mar 31, 2016 8:59 am

    Another super fresh KAZ 69 jacket:






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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by mylle on Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:03 pm

    Usually not my collection-focus, but I thought it could be interesting to show
    the small differences on Austrian canteens, covers and cups.












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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by CollectinSteve on Wed Jun 15, 2016 3:12 am

    Nice! I've only ever seen the two camouflage types you have + the medic cover. My guess is that's all there is to collect?

    The canteen design seems to have been pretty stable for the 1960s and 1970s. I've only had a few and haven't noticed any differences in details.

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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by mylle on Wed Jun 15, 2016 7:12 am

    Yes, the medic version with the leather strap is missing in this pic. I also guess
    there are only those 3 types of the camo covers.

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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by mylle on Wed Jun 15, 2016 7:56 am

    KAZ 59 Drillichshirt in unissued condition:






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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by CollectinSteve on Wed Jun 15, 2016 1:59 pm

    Wow... what a surprising acquisition! I totally didn't see that coming Very Happy Very Happy

    Seriously, that is a beautiful shirt. I look forward to getting it's brother in my hands.

    Now I just wish I could find a 1958 dated example...

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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by mylle on Wed Jun 15, 2016 2:17 pm

    Well, I thought It could be wise to get one too....
    And finally I have something to put the spare old rank insignias on. Wink
    Guess to find examples from 1958 is as hard as finding matching pants....

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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by CollectinSteve on Wed Jun 15, 2016 10:31 pm

    Since it took me almost 15 years to find the pants, I hope you're wrong Smile

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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by mylle on Tue Nov 01, 2016 3:28 pm

    M56 fieldcap showing the rank of a Colonel. Personal name writen on the inside.






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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by Philip on Thu Nov 03, 2016 4:32 pm

    Almost as ugly as my Gebirgskappe Very Happy


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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by mylle on Thu Nov 03, 2016 4:56 pm

    No, the current ones are even uglier IMHO. Wink
    Something between wannabe old school. Cool Laughing

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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by Gulf91 on Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:44 pm

    mylle wrote:I'm back from my shopping tour at my favourite camo-clothing wonderworld in Vienna so that's the new stuff!

    Ladies(?) and Gentlemen!, I proudly present:

    KAZ 57 Parka from 1958!!!
    There are many interesting details(full collar etc.).







    Don't know what thats for:



    Note the loops for foliage!





    Small pocket on the back



    Strange rank sleeve thing?Just on one side.







    Tanker Jacket with fixed hood!Stamp isn't readable anymore.









    KAZ 57/59 Pants but without  integrated belt.












    Field cap.It was never offical issued but often worn.They were made out of tent-blankets by the barracks tailor-shops.







    Thats the same type of Parka I was trying to describe in my other post.

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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by mylle on Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:43 pm

    Well, you have a very cool piece then! The KAZ 57 paka is a must have. Wink

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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by CollectinSteve on Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:45 pm

    I'm jealous of anybody that has the original shoulder roll (I forget the Austrian nickname for it) on the KAZ M57 jacket.  This is to help keep a rifle strap from slipping off the shoulder and is probably the last uniform in the world to try to use it.  They were mostly removed by the soldiers at the time of issue or they were moved when shoulder straps were retrofitted onto them in the early 1960s. As a result there's few that still have them present.

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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by mylle on Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:02 pm

    Yeah I'm also happy that the original roll is still there, I had a second parka where the roll was removed and the shoulder straps added. The roll is a quite funky feature.

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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by Wolverine on Mon Dec 19, 2016 6:09 pm

    I had never even known that the roll existed on this uniform before now.

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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by mylle on Mon Dec 19, 2016 6:13 pm

    As Steve said before, the use of them wasn't really there so I guess not many intact ones survived.
    I only saw one so far and thats the one I have.

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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by austromunga on Mon Dec 19, 2016 7:50 pm

    Ok so... Steve best if you close your eyes for this....




    are they closed yet!!..........





    Ok so here's my KAZ 57 parkas with both the original shoulder roll, and the modified shoulder strap (note original stitching for the roll still visible under the new fabric rank strap!!!)
    I have another KAZ 57 its very faded and worn and It been field modified where the full collar, hood have been removed .. and IIRC...... there is no rank straps either!!!...













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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by mylle on Mon Dec 19, 2016 7:53 pm

    Welcome to the club! Wink Lovely pieces.

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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by austromunga on Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:32 pm

    Just found my HBA 1958 dated modified KAZ 57...... its not that bad of a tidy up job (guess the hood got caught and torn...) even retaining the storm collar flap and buttons!! note Wear to collar this has been well worn in this configuration and repaired patches all over..... even the sleeves have threadbare repairs!!! someone really didn't want to let go of this Jacket when in service!!!! cyclops






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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by CollectinSteve on Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:24 am

    Heh, yeah, I've already figured out everybody has one with the sausage roll except for me. Having just looked at my collection again I think I'm still doing OK with fun things Wink

    Neat that you have such a clear outline of where the sausage roll was removed. Interesting that your jacket has exposed buttons for the epaulets. Usually they were identical to M59 (hidden button), hidden snap, or exposed snap. Such variations!

    Yup, that hoodless M57 was done right. Maybe someone was trying to make it look like a WW2 3rd Reich FJ bonesack? Either that or it is as you suggest where the hood was beyond repair and someone took the time to make it serviceable.

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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by austromunga on Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:32 am

    Don't worry too much Steve ...im sure you'll find one.. with your connections, sometime... and like you say you have many, many other treasures to look at!!!!! Wink
    I hadn't thought about the TR replica aspect......but cant see any evidence of fictitious badging going on anywhere!!!
    guess some of the establishment of the Bundesheer, didn't like the look of the unsightly, and out of place big plastic buttons on the modification rank straps...perhaps the reason for the hidden type!! Laughing
    I also have a KAZ 59 parka that has been modified into a kind of half parka!!??? as in the usual bottom half removal to include the flap..has not occurred...... instead the flap has been trimmed and reshaped!!!??? and is still (in a fashion) functional!!??? ill have to dig it out for another look!!

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    Re: Mylle's Austrian Stuff

    Post by mylle on Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:46 am

    Modifications were a common practice. KAZ 59 parkas shortenend to KAZ 69 length,KAZ 59 with modified cuffs and length, Hood removed, zippers added (look at my KAZ 69 jacket with DAZ75 fieldjacket zipper) etc., there are tons of variants out there. If you start collecting them, you will need an own house just for this stuff. Laughing I somewhere saw a shortened KAZ 59 parka with pockets added on the back like on a smock....

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