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    LeeKitchen1975
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    Post by LeeKitchen1975 on Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:00 pm

    I have the opportunity to possibly buy something unique, I have asked if it has a NSN label which I have been told there is...however when I put the code into the website;

    http://8470.iso-group.com/Public/Search_Results.aspx?ss

    It returns with no results?!

    I have bought some items off the chap before and all are legit...could the website be wrong?

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    Re: Help

    Post by bravo_2_zero on Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:10 pm

    Would unit buy small order or experimental be logged on that site ?

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    Post by LeeKitchen1975 on Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:18 pm

    Mmmmm interesting that one...I would have thought a small purchase would just use a standard garment and use it for what it needed I.e the Dyed Green kit.

    I presume if a batch of kit was to have a NSN label specific to that item, it would have to be tested etc at the MOD, a purchase of a sizeable order order to make it cost effective?

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    Post by bravo_2_zero on Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:31 pm

    I don't 100% know about British NSN but American had its own for small purchase and its own for Natick prototypes separate from the regular. On even smaller runs its well documented that they have even just used any tags even if the item don't even match, the experimental T-PATT urban vests were marked up as desert jackets with desert NSN.

    It's just a guess mind.

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    Post by LeeKitchen1975 on Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:45 pm

    That's really interesting B20...think I'm just scared of paying out some good money for something that's not real if that makes sense!!

    I might have to roll the dice!!! Arrrgghhhh

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    Post by DMC CAS on Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:09 pm

    National Stock Code 8470 is Armour, Personal - what's the whole NSN?

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    Re: Help

    Post by LeeKitchen1975 on Fri Mar 21, 2014 6:15 pm

    Stock Number is 8415-99-213-6259 hope you can shed some light on it - just bought it...looks like the new style softie which is going on issue...when I get it, I'll post some pics..

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    Post by DMC CAS on Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:30 am

    CG 8415-99-213-6259 is described as:- JACKET, EXTREME COLD WEATHER-TANTALUS 2 (SF) ENSEMBLE - SIZE 114 SMALL - JACKET, THERMAL INSULATED, OLIVE WITH STUFF SACK - THERMALLY INSULATED JACKET WITH ATTACHED HOOD; USED IN COLD CLIMATIC CONDITIONS AS A MID LAYER - COLOUR OLIVE. Items from the TANTALUS Clothing System are generally only issued to Special Forces.

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    Post by LeeKitchen1975 on Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:38 am

    Wow...looking forward to getting the bad boy then!!! Thank you for the update!! When it arrives I shall post pictures!!

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    Post by DMC CAS on Mon Mar 24, 2014 3:07 pm

    You now need to find a pair of the matching Thermal Trousers!
    Both the jacket and trousers are made by Carinthia of Austria and were supplied to the MoD by BCB International as an interim solution for use by the Royal Marines and Special Forces, who found the in service Thermal Suit to be deficient in design and thermal properties.
    Both the jacket and trousers are commercially available as:-
    Carinthia MIG Jacket G-loft and Carinthia HIG 2.2 Trousers G-Loft
    The trousers are issued in both Olive Green and MTP.

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    Re: Help

    Post by LeeKitchen1975 on Mon Mar 24, 2014 5:05 pm

    Thank you for the update...really appreciate it as I didn't know that!! I can get a pair of the Thermal Trousers but they are huge and have had the label ripped out Sad Have seen on the Field Textiles site they have the Jacket and corresponding trousers but they are at silly price! £200 for the Jacket and £175 for the trousers...

    I like generally to get where I can what fits me but the chap I got the jacket off says the trousers are big?! Should I get them, shouldn't I is the question!!

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