Finnish helmet covers, M05 and M91

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    Post by J0hi1 on Thu Jul 03, 2014 3:31 pm

    I got my hands to a couple of helmet covers, an M/05 one and a late-production M/91 one, both in size M (fits L-sized ACH-type or M-sized PASGT-type helmets).


    The guy I bought the M/05 cover from said that it never was FDF property. I tend to believe him because he was also selling M/05 trousers (which I stupidly didn't buy, because they weren't my size), but not the smock or any other items - should he have been selling gear issued to him, he would probably have offered any pieces of the kit.

    The M/05 cover is two-sided, with an M/05 woodland camo side and an M/05 snow camo side. The tag is sewn on the snow camo side.
    The cover is made in Finland in 2010 by Admico OY ('Admico Ltd').
    The tag reads:
    "10 [inside tower marking, meaning year of manufacture - 2010]  M [size M]
    ADMICO OY ['Admico Ltd']
    Maastokuviopuoli [Camouflage pattern side]
    50% / 50% CO/PES [Cotton/Polyester]
    Lumipukupuoli [Snow suit side]
    30% / 70% CO/PES [Cotton/Polyester]"

    Here are some pictures of it. Notice how the dark grey on the snow camo pattern is lighter on the helmet cover than on the (genuine) fabric which I used as a background.
    First, the manufacturer and size tag:
    Finnish helmet covers, M05 and M91 IMG_5146_zps791c541a

    Front:
    Finnish helmet covers, M05 and M91 IMG_5143_zps2369a7a6

    Rear:
    Finnish helmet covers, M05 and M91 IMG_5144_zps77985285

    Snow camo side on the inside:
    Finnish helmet covers, M05 and M91 IMG_5145_zps55d7c660

    Snow camo side front:
    Finnish helmet covers, M05 and M91 IMG_5147_zps5a138220

    Snow camo side rear:
    Finnish helmet covers, M05 and M91 IMG_5148_zps503a0ff0

    Front, on an L-sized ACH:
    Finnish helmet covers, M05 and M91 IMG_5153_zpsa829f829

    Right front, on an L-sized ACH:
    Finnish helmet covers, M05 and M91 IMG_5152_zps158fb573

    Left rear, on an L-sized ACH:
    Finnish helmet covers, M05 and M91 IMG_5154_zps7a1fad12

    Snow camo side right front, on an L-sized ACH:
    Finnish helmet covers, M05 and M91 IMG_5149_zps4330573d

    Snow camo side left rear, on an L-sized ACH:
    Finnish helmet covers, M05 and M91 IMG_5150_zpsea098676

    Snow camo side right rear, on an L-sized ACH:
    Finnish helmet covers, M05 and M91 IMG_5151_zps50b29d90


    The M/91 cover I bought from a reservist store (MPY, now Inttistore). Interestingly enough, it has FDF's tower/castle marking on the tag, which makes me think it is genuine.
    It's made by Admico OY ('Admico Ltd') in Finland, in 2005. It shares the same design with the M05 covers, which the earlier production M/91 covers don't. However, this one has rubber band loops on the snow side for adding spruce twigs or such for extra camoufalge, which the M/05 cover lacks on its snow camo side.

    Like the M/05 cover, the tag is sewn on the snow side. It reads:
    "2005 [inside tower marking] M [size M]
    50% CO / 50% PES
    30% CO / 70% PES
    ADMICO SECURITY SERVICE"

    Here are the pictures. First, the tag:
    Finnish helmet covers, M05 and M91 IMG_5158_zpsf9b16dfa

    Right front:
    Finnish helmet covers, M05 and M91 IMG_5157_zpsc2588037

    Left rear:
    Finnish helmet covers, M05 and M91 IMG_5156_zps8e7e45d1

    Snow side, right front:
    Finnish helmet covers, M05 and M91 IMG_5159_zpsd58faf94

    Snow side, left rear:
    Finnish helmet covers, M05 and M91 IMG_5160_zps7cf1163d

    Snow side, right rear:
    Finnish helmet covers, M05 and M91 IMG_5161_zpsc8bf2b30

    Front, on an L-sized ACH:
    Finnish helmet covers, M05 and M91 IMG_5168_zps9f8c88a3

    Right front, on an L-sized ACH:
    Finnish helmet covers, M05 and M91 IMG_5165_zps2cf6d244

    Left rear, on an L-sized ACH:
    Finnish helmet covers, M05 and M91 IMG_5166_zps31de3327

    Snow side, right front, on an L-sized ACH:
    Finnish helmet covers, M05 and M91 IMG_5162_zpscbef7094

    Snow side, left rear, on an L-sized ACH:
    Finnish helmet covers, M05 and M91 IMG_5163_zps3f507dd1


    There are also other helmet covers used by FDF: an M/04-M/05 one which has M/04 desert camo on one side and M/05 woodland camo on the other, then the earlier production M/91, and also two versions of the M/62 helmet covers, one for the M/55 helmet (M35-onwards Stahlhelm type), and the other for the M/38 and M/60 helmets.
    There's also an M/62 detachable hood (which I do have, but I just haven't got pictures of it), which acts both as a hood for the late-production M/62 smocks (those which have buttons on the inner side of the collar) and as a helmet cover for the M/38 and M/60 helmets.
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    Post by ripcord on Fri Sep 05, 2014 4:24 pm

    Thank you for taking the time to post the very interesting information above.


    Seems there is a scarcity of good info as far as Finnish uniforms, patterns and related items are concerned.

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    Post by Bolty717 on Fri Sep 05, 2014 9:58 pm

    Are the elastic foliage assemblies sew to the materail on the green side? If so its a pity they didn't match it up to part of the pattern.
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    Post by J0hi1 on Sat Sep 06, 2014 2:05 pm

    Yeah, they're sewn on. However they don't affect the camouflage value much on M05 when viewed further away, as the pattern already has those black blotches. On M91 they are more visible.
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    Post by Stepi on Sat Sep 06, 2014 3:59 pm

    Newer M05 helmet covers actually have green foliage bands, making them perhaps a bit "better".
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    Post by J0hi1 on Sat Sep 06, 2014 9:28 pm

    Where they do have those?

    The helmet cover issued to me (not this) was made out of the newer M05 fabric in 2012 (the same that is used in the newer domestic Image Wear made M05 camo suits, with colouring really similar to Waffen-SS's green Oak Leaf camo), and it had those black bands with black attach hooks. The older M05 helmet covers however do have green attach hooks like the M91 seen here.
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    Post by J0hi1 on Sat May 16, 2015 2:41 pm

    Small addition to that what I wrote earlier:
    The M/05 helmet cover was used by FDF, but was scrapped due to the broken attachment hooks (two out of six are broken).
    A contact of mine inside FDF material department said that it's a common procedure to scrap helmet covers which have at least 2 broken hooks. They are mostly incinerated as far as I'm aware, but some of the warehouse workers let soldiers take scrapped items for themselves.

    The reason behind the broken hooks is the earlier M/92 helmet, which has thicker edges than the newer M/2000 and M/05 helmets.
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    Post by jimmyduncan23 on Sat May 16, 2015 8:05 pm

    Nice stuff thanks for posting them

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