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    Post by mylle on Sun Aug 17, 2014 3:51 pm

    Nice stuff and well made!

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    Post by CollectinSteve on Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:20 am

    Whoa! I've never seen that before! Looks like it is contemporary Border Guards. I say this because the date appears to be 2013, the left arm is setup to take Border Guard rank, the snaps are the same as on the field uniform, and generally conforms to standard uniform features.

    I like it!

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    Post by mylle on Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:49 am

    Its a cool jacket! Bought it from a Hungarian guy  on the fleamarket near my
    town(close to the Hungarian border). He also had matching trousers and a baret but they were fu....ed up!.
    The jacket seems to be directly from the warehouse and not really worn.....

    First I thought its a tanker jacket or maybe helo crew.....And there must be also a liner for the jacket because it has velcro on the inner side.The arms have also strange zippers beginning at the cuffs.

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    Post by CollectinSteve on Tue Aug 19, 2014 6:04 pm

    Just checked and apparently it is commercial. The company was founded in 1991 and tried to make money from the commercial market and went out of business in 1996. So I guess that label doesn't include a date Very Happy

    It's possible this company tried to get the Hungarian government to purchase them. The velcro is suspicious.

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    Post by mylle on Tue Aug 19, 2014 6:44 pm

    I just asked a former schoolfriend who is from Hungary and also collecting
    stuff, and he said the jackets were made for the Border Guards for trial but
    they didn't purchased many of them.Maybe they were worn for a short time??
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    Post by mylle on Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:47 pm

    Just found some earplugs and remains of some kind
    of ammunition wrap in one of the front pockets. So I was
    wrong with unused. I think there are two options: maybe it was worn by
    some government person or someone lik a civilian, hunter etc.
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    Post by CollectinSteve on Thu Aug 21, 2014 1:52 pm

    One of my Hungarian friends said he's never seen this for sale or in another collection. After thinking about it some more he agrees there's a good chance that the company made these for border guards, either hoping to get a contract or hoping to sell enough directly to make a profit. Since the company went out of business in 1996 I think we can assume their plans did not work Very Happy

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    Post by mylle on Thu Aug 21, 2014 2:46 pm

    I also think that they made them in small numbers for the
    government and maybe they tested it,(because of the earplugs and the ammunition wrap).
    Afaik the border guards stopped wearing camo in the 90ies
    maybe thats a reason the company broke down....
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    Post by CollectinSteve on Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:27 pm

    Looks like you have yourself a very interesting experimental piece Very Happy Tamas (who is our #1 Hungarian militaria expert) says he spoke with the head of the company that made your jacket. This was some time ago in connection with another item. The guy said they never made anything in camouflage for the civilian market but did make some experimental items for the Hungarian government. Tamas suspects this could be intended for a special police unit because of the style of the jacket.

    Note that there are two kinds of trials items. There are the ones that are part of an official government program where the government asks manufactures to submit items (either general or to very strict specifications) for consideration. The other is when a company makes something on their own and then tries to get the government to purchase it. My guess is your jacket is the second type. I say this because it appears even the most advanced and knowledgable Hungarian collectors have never seen a jacket like this.

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    Post by mylle on Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:54 pm

    Cool that you found that out, Steve!So I guess I
    should try to get the other
    one, the Hungarian guy had! Laughing 
    Maybe I see him again this weekend at the flea market.
    I was afraid it could be some commercial piece....
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    Post by CollectinSteve on Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:14 pm

    Yup! And if you do, send me a PM and maybe we can work something out Very Happy

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    Post by mylle on Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:29 am

    For sure Steve! Very Happy I will see what I can do.
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    Post by mylle on Sun Sep 21, 2014 7:20 am

    Found another jacket with a fur collar and matching
    trousers!!

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    Strange little pockets

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    Post by koalorka on Sun Sep 21, 2014 12:51 pm

    Very unique uniform. No idea something like that existed in M87.
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    Post by mylle on Sun Sep 21, 2014 1:21 pm

    Yep its very unique.The pockets on the trousers are
    placed very strange.But its a nice set and according to Steve very rare.
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    Post by mylle on Sun Oct 25, 2015 10:26 am

    Matching beret:

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    Post by CollectinSteve on Sun Oct 25, 2015 11:34 pm

    Those berets are quite rare. You should be able to find the correct badge for it because it was used by more than just the TESZ. In fact, there's one on eBay now:

    http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Hungarian-Military-Army-Rakosi-Era-white-beret-badge-/272021626033?

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    Post by joni firpo on Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:11 am

    Wow! This is the extremly rare Special Police (Anti-Terror Unit) uniform issued in 1987 and used for a very short while on a very limited basis. Congratulations!
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    Post by mylle on Mon Dec 24, 2018 9:52 am

    Its a pitty that I never saw the guy again who sold me those uniforms....

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