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    Post by TennoHeikaNate Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:37 am

    Here's a basic cut, what appears to be a barracks/parade set of Taiwanese Marines tiger stripe. 00's era I'm guessing. Normal two pocket, button up shirt and plain trousers with zip fly, latch waist, no cargo pockets or reinforcements. Full color insignia as opposed to subdued, although I have seen some photos of Marines in combat exercises with full color insignia as well.
    Issued since the 1980's until the new digital variant was unveiled on May 16, 2017, although pieces of it can still be seen on recruits and random bits of gear and equipment.




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    A basic jungle-style coat in the Army's horizontal ERDL pattern. Introduced in the early 90's to replace the older vertical ERDL issued in 1991, standardized by 1994.
    Four button pockets, button cuffs, front, button waist adjusters, and four velcro sleeve holders on each sleeve, unique to Taiwanese uniforms, to facilitate easier sleeve rolling and pulling down.
    Not sure what all the insignia means, guessing one tape is the name, but it is ranked to a Specialist equivalent of the 8th Corps ''Kancheng Force''.




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    And my latest addition, a current issue digital shirt. Badged to a Private 2nd Class of the Republic of China Military Police, strangely in Taiwan the Military Police is its own separate branch of the military, tasked with counter-sabotage/espionage, defense of VIPs against assassination, capital defense; the capital of Taipei is entirely under the defense of the ROCMP, as well as normal MP practices of military and civil law enforcement. The patch translated to something like "Military Constitution", and the tape reads "Republic of China Military Police".
    Created by the Taiwanese Military Armaments Bureau, the Digital Camouflage Combat Uniform, or DCCU was introduced in 2013 and is a separate design to the special operations digital pattern introduced in 2007.
    Features a button front, cuffs, waist adjusters, two slanted velcro chest pockets, a single velcro left arm pocket with additional zipper pocket, gusseted arm swings/shoulders, velcro sleeve holders, and a single button above the left chest pocket, which a leather tab is buttoned onto, on which then one's ID card is clipped to.
    According to a Taiwanese collector blog that I can't find again at the moment, the pattern as allegedly created by computers by scanning images of Taiwan's geography and flora and taking the best colors out of thousands to create the palette for the pattern, as the Japanese Jieitai and Peruvian AMAPAT patterns were also allegedly created, or so I read.
    Like previous Taiwanese uniforms, it is thin and lightweight, perfect for Taiwan's climate, although due to the thin material and constant sea breeze these DCCUs are known to fade quickly and badly, as evidenced by some of the following photos. No know movements to replace the pattern at this time.
    It is issued on many uniform items and equipment including pouches, vests, summer, winter, and rain uniforms, private purchase caps, boonie hats, combat shirts, rucks, and even jungle style boots.
    A friend of mine went to Taiwan and brought back a full ERDL and DCCU uniform, I should have taken pics when he brought it to show me. The DCCU trousers are pretty darn close to BDU cut still, and the cap is a regular BDU style but with a plastic slide adjuster.




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    That's it for my personal collection so far, I intend to pick up more in the hopefully near future and add to this. I will list some other patterns as well as plenty of reference photos.





    Couple pics of the old tiger stripes and duck hunter/spotted pattern



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    ROCMC old tiger stripe, also note a couple pics in there of the Commandant wearing the new digital version while surveying ROCMC personnel wearing the old version, as well as various kit like vests, pouches, boonie hats, and such.



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    ERDL, horizontal and vertical. Also note some photos have the old Army green tiger stripe helmet covers, and some photos have old ERDL alongside the new DCCU. The last photo shows it worn as late as 2018.



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    Taiwanese soldiers pictured in front of an Antelope Short Range Air Defense missile system during large scale military exercises on the 4th of June 2018.





    Unique urban leaf and woodland patterns worn apparently by some sort of counter-terrorist unit. The only info I could find related to it was a Taiwanese article that roughly translated them as "Anti Terrorist Combat Unit Liangshan SWAT team".
    This particular coat, sold by a certain ebay seller, is in a hybrid jungle/Taiwanese BDU cut, but the pattern is smaller than most in photos I've seen. I believe this particular coat is now in the possession of the collector who runs the Uniform History Youtube channel and Discord server.




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    Taiwan's first digital pattern, issued to special forces starting in 2007. While it appears restricted to use by Taiwanese Special Operations Command, Taiwanese SF do not appear restricted to it, as some have been seen wearing standard DCCU uniforms as well as many others, flexing their SF privilege over the lowly regular service members.



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    Another unique urban digital pattern restricted to SF use. Not sure when it was introduced, Gilles / Vonstuck has an earlier BDU/jungle style set he posted back in 2011.

    From Taiwanese articles and collector forums info, it is at least used as an OPFOR uniform, as Taiwanese SF play "nondescript Communist invaders" in their wargames and wear special insignia differentiating themselves.
    It has also been seen worn on parades and public demonstrations. As to whether it's used in any operational purposes like being worn as an actual urban camouflage uniform or if it is solely an OPFOR pattern, I have no idea.
    Newer sets appear in the same cut as the normal green SF digital, with unique features compared to the DCCU like a gusseted crotch, mandarin collar, zippered mesh arm vents, zippered vertical chest pockets, and more velcro for insignia, including the shoulders.
    Taiwanese SF have also been seen wearing full black uniforms, but only on parades and demonstrations.

    I have included the roughly translated original captions for some of the following photos.



    Attacking Forces of the Army Special Warfare Forces wore camouflage uniforms of different colors, which were evident in the ranks of the officers and men of the DefenSe Forces.
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    Army Special Operations Command Special combat troops special two battalion special one consecutive.
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    "Hanguan Exercise"
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    Huang Jiaqing, who plays the ''special investigation team leader'' in the attacking army.
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    In the middle of the simulation, the Communists played the attacking army, and the dress was exposed.
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    The special warrior who served as an attacking army used the simplified armband.
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    The National Army used the Lianyun exercise in 2011 to let the female paratroopers wear the town digital camouflage test.
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    Some snipers, Army Rangers, SF, and airborne have been seen wearing MultiCam, MultiTiger, and some sort of hunting camo ghillie suits, possibly a RealTree knockoff, I don't know hunting camo very well.
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    ROCMC digital tiger stripe. Photos almost entirely from the ROCMC's Facebook page. Their Marines are only 9,000 active so not many cool action-shot photos, mostly boring promotional and public relations stuff.
    First photo is from the public unveiling of the new uniform on May 16, 2017.




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    And finally, the DCCU. First photo is from its introduction by the Taiwanese Military Armaments Bureau, most pics are again from the ROC Armed Forces Facebook page.
    There's a bunch, but I'll try to include as many as I can for all the different types of uniform items and gear, comparison of new vs faded examples, and wear by different units, as well as some in-field photos.
    According to my friend, it blended very well in Taiwan, although civilians wearing their military's uniforms around in public is illegal there. But when he went to play airsoft at a field there, the place that ran the games had huge crates full of old ERDL uniforms to loan to the players.




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    Winter uniform. Like the previous ERDL version, the removable green fur collar has a tendency to turn brown from sun and wear.
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    Capital defense exercise.
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    SF member wearing DCCU. There'll be a few of those mixed in here.
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    ROC Airborne Special Operations Forces Team Line up at Chengkungling Grand Ground 2015
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    Note the camo boots!
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    Great example of how bad they fade.
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    Taiwanese acquaintance wearing his issued uniform, note camo jungle boots.
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    And that's all, enjoy!
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    Post by HEB Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:00 pm

    wow, nice. Thanks for you work!
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    Post by TennoHeikaNate Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:42 pm

    Thanks very much HEB! I don't know why an interest in modern Asian camo has hit me so recently, but there's no sense not rolling with it!
    I thoroughly kicked myself after realizing I completely forgot to mention the trials for the DCCU, and an article discussing the rollout of the ROCMC digital tiger.
    On June 14th, 2011 in Taipei, the Taiwanese Military/Army Armaments Bureau unveiled their progress in introducing the newest combat uniform for the Taiwanese Armed Forces.
    They publicly revealed these unique digital patterns that were being trialed by the military to replace their old ERDL pattern and jungle/BDU style uniform.

    From a China News Article http://www.chinanews.com/tw/2011/06-14/3110359_2.shtml
    "Taiwan military shows the latest digital camouflage field uniforms will be gradually replaced"

    "The Taiwan military held a press conference on the 14th to explain the results of the development of the Taiwan military’s digital camouflage field uniforms, improve the material of current clothing fabrics, improve air permeability and heat dissipation, and develop digital camouflage patterns to meet the hidden needs of the battlefield."


    From another article: http://www.fjsen.com/b/2011-06/15/content_4876322.htm
    "According to Taiwan media reports, the Taiwan military has released a new generation of field uniform styles, using "digital camouflage" to replace large color blocks with small multicolor grids. According to the "Army Bureau", in addition to softer fabrics and better breath-ability, the new camouflage clothing also takes into account ergonomics, and for the first time designed clothing styles for female officers and soldiers; however, due to tight budgets in recent years, it will not be significantly changed in two years.

    Zhang Zhongcheng, director of the Technology Industry Division of the "Army Bureau", said that the current camouflage clothing has been replaced in 1995 and has been used for more than 15 years. The style and camouflage effects need to be strengthened. The "Army Bureau" carried out a year from April last year to March this year. Research and complete the development of new camouflage clothing. In the future, the three armed forces will use the new camouflage clothing, representing the "Tabby camouflage" unique to the Marines.

    Zhang Zhongcheng said that the "Chinese Academy of Sciences" used digital camouflage composed of green, brown, and light gray to match the combat environment in Taiwan. The test found that the camouflage effect of the new camouflage clothing is 40% higher than the old block camouflage clothing, which is higher than The first generation of grass-green clothing is 60% higher. The fabric is made of cotton and nylon. It is softer than the current camouflage clothing and has twice the air permeability.

    He pointed out that the new style of camouflage clothing is also more ergonomic than the previous generation. For example, the pockets that were originally on the hem are often covered by belts and bullet bags and often cannot be used. Therefore, they have been moved to the left and right upper arm positions to facilitate access to objects. The pockets have also been changed from outside to inside; cuffs and pockets, waist adjustment straps, leggings, leggings, etc. have been changed into convenient devil felts to prevent the buttons from compressing the body when lying down, causing discomfort.

    In the past, camouflage uniforms were made regardless of gender. This time, men's and women's styles were separated. The female soldier's field uniforms were tailored to the body curve and had a chest line design."



    Here is a video about the conference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjYbHsxYwzw
    The video provides some better close-ups of the uniforms, and more details like camo jungle boots and insignia can be seen. Their loose display shirt also had OD subdued insignia, its possibly they wanted to go with camo'ed insignia at the time but decided against it eventually. Also, by the press photos and videos, they seem to already favor the pattern that we know was selected; maybe they already had a preference for it by then but were still conducting tests.



    From the photos and video provided, there seems to be at least three patterns, which I'll call A, B, and C, left to right going by the first photo that shows them all side by side:
    "A" being the pattern that the man on the left with the dark belt is wearing, that reminds me of that new Paraguay digital.
    "B" being the pattern worn by the man wearing the most combat kit, that was selected and now known as the DCCU pattern.
    And "C" being the brightest pattern worn by the man and woman on the right, showing the male and female uniform cuts. I haven't been able to differentiate between male and female uniform cuts, although the article mentions that the only real difference was to allow for "female curves, and in the chest line".



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    A few things to note from these articles; in the press photos, you can see some minor differences between the trial DCCU and the adopted one, most notably to me are the camouflage tapes and unit patches; they ended up going with a simple classic OD subdued style insignia. They also ended up omitting the right sleeve pocket. Due to the small and poor image quality it's hard to see more differences. Even Taiwan-based collectors don't seem to have any examples or clues about the trial uniforms and patterns.
    Also, the article mentions: "...carried out from April last year to March this year." This places the trials for the DCCU between April 2010 to March 2011. Curious, as it wasn't adopted until 2013, and by reference photos I can see trainees, reserve, and rear line units as late as 2018 still wearing the old ERDL uniforms. My hunch is that despite all the talk of new high-tech modern uniforms and camo, it was more expensive than the ROC Armed Forces were prepared for, causing the rollout to be very slow.

    And here is an article dated 5/17/2017 about the unveiling of the ROCMC digital tiger stripe, which seems to be referred to as the "tabby camouflage" in Taiwan.
    https://news.ltn.com.tw/news/politics/breakingnews/2070152

    "The "Tabby Camouflage" field suit, a symbol of the Marine Corps, was once replaced by a digital camouflage and almost went into history. Only after vigorous efforts by veterans and soldiers did this tradition be retained. In response, the Ministry of National Defense announced that the first batch of new digital tabby camouflage field uniforms will be allocated to the training base for verification and use after a comprehensive assessment of various combat scenarios such as coast, town, and jungle. This year’s Hanguang exercise will have A battalion's troops will be completely changed, and the 9,000 Marines will be replaced on New Year's Day next year.

    According to Liu Yuping, chief of staff of the Marine Corps Command, the Marine Corps’ combat clothing has been worn since 1979. However, most countries in Europe and the United States today, as well as China’s army field clothing, have combined related technologies to develop new digital camouflage clothing. In order to meet the needs of camouflage concealment in the land and sea, the research and development of digital camouflage in the land and sea and the replacement work have been carried out.

    Although the digital camouflage clothing of the sea and land tiger spots is not much different from the present field clothing, Liu Yuping pointed out that after the new clothing was evaluated by human eye observation, computer camouflage numerical calculation, comprehensive evaluation, etc., last December, Yuzuo Beach, Kaohsiung and other places were related. The camouflage performance is more than 33% better than the current camouflage clothing.

    As for the overall budget of the case, Liu Yuping said that there are about 9,000 officers and men in the land and sea, the budget announcement amount is about 49 million yuan, and each person is about 2952 yuan. The new clothing material is more wear-resistant, breathable, and lighter than the old model, and 1979 The clothing developed in the year is "a world of difference". The Marine Corps will complete the refurbishment on New Year's Day next year."
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    Post by Camonut314 Fri Dec 20, 2019 1:28 pm

    Excellent job as always!

    I just wanted to mention one thing that you didn't seem to specifically call out, though. There was a specific Airborne-specific tigerstripe uniform which you can actually see in a couple of your photos near the top. You can clearly see a difference between the uniform and the helmet cover (for some reason they never made a matching helmet cover???). I think there is a thread on the forum which details this uniform, but I could be wrong. In any case, I have one of these, I just need to take the time and dig it out Laughing
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    Post by vonstuck Fri Dec 20, 2019 3:55 pm

    Camonut314 wrote:Excellent job as always!

    I just wanted to mention one thing that you didn't seem to specifically call out, though. There was a specific Airborne-specific tigerstripe uniform which you can actually see in a couple of your photos near the top. You can clearly see a difference between the uniform and the helmet cover (for some reason they never made a matching helmet cover???). I think there is a thread on the forum which details this uniform, but I could be wrong. In any case, I have one of these, I just need to take the time and dig it out Laughing

    https://iacmc.forumotion.com/t3861-tiger-stripe

    See my website for more pictures of the paratrooper pattern
    http://vonstuckcamouflage.free.fr/taiwan.php

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    Post by TennoHeikaNate Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:25 pm

    Having just visited my friend, he allowed me to take photos of his DCCU which he originally acquired unissued from Taiwan. You can see how much he wears the cap and shirt compared to the trousers.
    The cap is traditional Taiwanese style, a patrol cap with a baseball style back and plastic slider buckle to adjust the size.
    The trousers are almost exactly the same cut as the Singapore army digital trousers; basic BDU style but with slanted leg cargo flaps, the Taiwanese DCCU also uses all velcro closures and adjusters for the waist tabs and pockets flaps, while the Singapore trousers use buttons.
    The last photo compares the fade of my shirt compared to his. He also noted variation in the colors between his trousers and shirt, even when he got them brand new.



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    Post by TennoHeikaNate Sun Dec 04, 2022 10:49 pm

    Some new additions to the ROC area:
    First is a private purchase pair of the ROKMC digital tiger trousers.
    I'm not sure what differences they have, if any, compared to the gov't issue ones aside from the tag.
    I should have taken more pics, I neglected to do so when I got these before they went into storage, but they are a pretty basic cut with slanted flap leg cargo pockets, waist velcro tabs, and general BDU/ACU features.
    Admittedly, the stitching seems a bit subpar compared to the gov't issue ROC stuff I've handled.

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    Next is a pair of ROKMC dive shorts in the older organic tiger stripe pattern, with some embroidery.
    I have no idea if these are issue or a private purchase thing.

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    Here is a sort of kepi, I think it was part of the basic service uniform, seems to date to the 70's or 80's.
    It has some writing on the bill and tag, and interestingly the internal band is made out of the duck hunter/spot camouflage pattern material.

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    Stemming from that, here's an M1 cover in a curious "watermelon" pink and lime green duck hunter/spot pattern.
    This is one of the two earliest known indigenous ROC patterns, dating from at least the 70's.
    There was quite a variety of these duck hunter patterns, this "watermelon" one seems like a later production, while earlier ones had larger spots, and some
    photos even seem to show more US style and Beo Gam looking variations. Some helmets even had the spot patterns directly painted on.
    The earliest dated photo showing one of these duck hunter patterns in use is 1969.

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    The other oldest known pattern is this one, nicknamed "Buddha Ji Gong", named after the Chinese legendary Buddhist monk who wore tattered, patchwork robes.
    Aptly named, this three-color camouflage pattern isn't printed, but is rather actually a patchwork piece made of three different color and material fabrics, cut abstractly and sewn into shape.
    The origins of this pattern aren't well known, rumor had it on a Chinese militaria forum I read said that patchwork camouflage helmet covers were made in the late 1940's
    Chinese Civil War era by Kuomintang forces, and that these ROC gov't issue ones were a descendant of those.
    Another source said a magazine from 1964 showed the pattern in use, but I have yet to see said publication.
    Regardless, it certainly had come into use by 1975.
    Neither this nor the duck hunter cover have any markings despite being unissued NOS pieces, so it makes accurately dating the patterns very difficult.

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    Finally, my friend gave me his DCCU cap, and I picked up my own pair of trousers.
    The trousers are the exact same cut as the ROKMC digital tiger ones.

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    Enjoy!
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    Post by TennoHeikaNate Mon Nov 04, 2024 1:47 am

    Haven't updated this in a bit, some more pieces:
    A 90's jungle jacket style ERDL coat, with insignia denoting its wear by Li Yulin, a member of the 203rd Infantry Division and an Assault Course student.
    A bright green button is sewn onto the left pocket flap for hanging the ID, which is kept in a leather/pleather/plastic holder.

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    A pair of trousers in the original vertically printed ERDL pattern from the early 90's, in a curious muted coloration.
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    A ROCAF issue DCCU cap.
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    And last for now, another Grass-Green TC Blended Rayon Field Cap, dated 1976 but without duck hunter camo lining.
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    Enjoy!
    -Nate

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