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    Dutch KCT and BBE CT vests (And possibly later also the KMAR type)

    michelwijnand
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    Post by michelwijnand Sat Dec 04, 2021 3:18 pm

    Just wanted to make a reference topic about the CT vests, those are the SF vests that have interchangable velcro attached panels with different pouches on them.

    First the KCT type in black, the most commonly seen type.
    1 Pouch is a P90 magazinepouch which has been shortened and used for MP5 mags.
    This set is still missing the narrow detachable radiopouch that fits on the back, and the legpanel might actually be from the BBE type.
    There's 2 versions of a similar panel in this set, 1 of which has a fixed bottom pouch, and the other having a flip-open bottom pouch with loops for shotgunshells,
    and there's also another version of the fixed pouch type which also has pressstuds on the top flaps.
    There is also a P90 pouch type that has only velcro.

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    Then the same KCT version in khaki, which was meant for use in Afghanistan but the Diamondback Tactical body armor and modular pouches actually took over already.
    There seems to be just 1 photo of this vest in actual use, but I would love to find more so I can get inspired to actually make a full set with this vest and a uniform.
    The vest itself seems to have plastic rings at the bottom of the front which I don't see on the black version, otherwise I think it's the same.
    On this set you can see the detachable radiopouch attached to the back of the vest, which is missing on my black vest.
    This set is still missing P90 pouch(es?) and a pouchpanel with the fixed bottom pouch, and maybe another variation of that but I don't know if t was also made in that
    variation in this color.

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    And my last one for now is the BBE type, this being their 1st version, the later version didn't colse with a zipper in the front but with Fastex buckles.
    The narrow utilitypouch on the back and the double C8 magazinepouch at the topright is actually the KCT type but came with the vest. The BBE type
    on the vest is the same shape as the small double magazinepouch of the KCT version which holds 1+1 mag, but this holds 2+2, which is the same
    as the KCT large type next to this vest.
    In addition to the long pouch running the length of he back there's also the gasmask/radiopouch sewn to the back of it, which, for some reson, has it's
    own label.

    There are still a number of items missing from my set, here's a list of what else exists out there, and there might even be more that I don't know about yet:
    Small horizontal hookknife pouch.
    Another similar small horizontal pouch, unknown use.
    P90 magazinepouch, opentop type, left and right handed.
    (P90 magazinepouch, flap type, left and right handed, not sure if this exists or I've seen a KCT pouch on a vest)
    Multiple pouch panel as on the KCT type, no idea if there's a difference.
    (Detachable radiopouch, possibly?).
    Legpanel, which might be the one with my black KCT vest.

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    There's also a KMAR type meant for riottroops carrying a teargasgun, which is very simple compared to these vests.
    It only has 2 velcro panels on the front and nothing else, these are meant for a holster-panel for the gun and a panel with pouches for the teargasrounds.
    I don't have this type yet but I might be able to find it later and add it to this thread.
    michelwijnand
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    Post by michelwijnand Sat Dec 04, 2021 7:20 pm

    Just thought about it too late so I can't edit the thread title anymore, but I'd like to add this one too, another somewhat obscure type of vest used mostly by KCT divers, MARSOF and some combat engineer divers.
    I've already posted this vest in my thread of British finds but I might as well add it here in the Dutch section too since it's Dutch made and I don't have to make a new thread for it but just add it to this one.

    This is a British made vest from the company ISPL and is labeled as a Dutch SF tactical vest on it's label. The panels are interchangable and are fastened by a large velcro pad, 2 small flaps at the top and bottom,
    and a strap that goes to the inside of the vest through slits.

    It has a life preserver zipped to the collar, which has a similar style to the one from my previous post, and there's 4 fastex clips at the soulders and waist to attach a rebreather.


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    There's also a strap on the left shoulder of which I don't know the purpose, maybe it holds some divingrelated piece of equipment in place, maybe the weapon while swimming..

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    And it has straps that pass between the legs so it doesn't slip off entirely when the flotation is activated.
    These can be stowed in a velcro pocket built into the back of the vest.
    There have been a few Fastex clips added to where the straps attach at the front, no idea what for.

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    It also has a disc which shows when it was last approved for use.

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    I have a load of pouches for it which are all labeled in English accordingly, so I won't have to type a whole story about which is which.

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    Here at the left is something that baffled me at first but it turned out to be a strap that attached to the shoulder of the vest through buttons and can be slung over to the back where it can hold a ropeladder in place.

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    There's more items to this set but I don't have them yet, these include the following:
    Legpanel
    Double pistolmagazine pouch (narrow panel)
    Green square utilitypouch (flap closure)
    Green waterproof utilitypouch (same as the black one above)
    Hydration pouch (I think, it's at least ver long, maybe it's even some sort of charge pouch?)
    And there might also be a longer model radiopouch but I'm not completely sure
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    Post by michelwijnand Wed Feb 09, 2022 4:50 pm

    Now I also have the KMAR type for teargas troops.
    It's a very simplified vest as it just has velcro panels on the front.
    At 1 side there's the holster for the teargasgun, at the other side a large panel with 2  pouches on it that hold 4 canisters each, and the
    bottom one can hinge outward so the top pouch doesn't block access.
    Those 2 panels attach the same as the panels on the BBE and KCT vests.
    Then there's 2 smaller pouches at the bottom that attach just by velcro and snapbuttons at the top

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    And then I have this pouch that I can't quite place yet.
    It's black, has a velcro back, 1 snapbutton on each corner, which doesn't seem to fit with any of these double snap corner vests,
    which probably means it's from yet another different vest that I don't know.

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    Post by Camonut314 Thu Feb 10, 2022 12:25 am

    Once again, awesome stuff! The unidentified pouch- it's Eagle Industries, made for one of their early modular vests; I think this one is for the TAC V1-D, or perhaps the LBV-D which was used by Polish GROM.
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    Post by michelwijnand Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:57 pm

    Thanks! I didn't know yet that Eagle had velcro panel vests, now I search for pics of them I find several things that look very similar
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    Post by michelwijnand Mon Apr 25, 2022 6:03 pm

    Found a few more parts of the ISPL set, there is still at least 1 more pouch out there, a square utilitypouch with flap, but more that I don't know about could exist.

    The small double pistolmagpouch doesn't have a tag and does not attach with velcro like other pouches, instead it has the large beltloops that are very visible, but
    also smaller ones made into the edge trim.

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