Possible Croatian Trial uniform , or bid sample by a U.S. company .
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vonstuck
misanthropic_gods
Reiska
panzerwerk
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Croatia Uniform test samples digitals
panzerwerk- Colonel
- Name : Steve Hoeger
Age : 57
Location : California , U.S.A
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Reiska- Sergeant
- Name : Carl
Age : 52
Location : Franklin, TN
Registration date : 2009-02-19
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These are samples, just like the one posted by Steve (Panzerwerk), except they're desert patterns. They have the same tags in English and same ACU type cut.
panzerwerk- Colonel
- Name : Steve Hoeger
Age : 57
Location : California , U.S.A
Registration date : 2009-02-16
Number of posts : 3068
I have the desert too , I forgot to post them here , Cool Stuff !!!!
Reiska- Sergeant
- Name : Carl
Age : 52
Location : Franklin, TN
Registration date : 2009-02-19
Number of posts : 281
Yes, very cool stuff, even if they're just samples.
misanthropic_gods- MODERATOR
- Location : Illinois, USA
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Those are freaking cool!
vonstuck- Colonel
- Location : FRANCE
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Compare with a good Croatian jacket
Philip- ADMIN MODERATOR
- Location : Austria
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Pretty cool uniforms.
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ripcord- Colonel
- Location : USA
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I have a slightly different version of the lighter color uniform.
The one that has a map of Croatia imbedded in the pattern.
Maker`s labels are the same, but the velcro is a lighter tan/desert
color. Does anyone know if these are trial/experimental uniforms,or
current issue ? Could they perhaps be commercial ?
Whatever they are , they are very nice uniforms.
Thanks, ripcord....
The one that has a map of Croatia imbedded in the pattern.
Maker`s labels are the same, but the velcro is a lighter tan/desert
color. Does anyone know if these are trial/experimental uniforms,or
current issue ? Could they perhaps be commercial ?
Whatever they are , they are very nice uniforms.
Thanks, ripcord....
CollectinSteve- ADMIN
- Location : New England, US
Registration date : 2009-03-08
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Last theory I remember was some US contractor was bidding on the Croat uniforms. Which seems odd on the face of it because Croatia has a very strong garment industry. But maybe they had to satisfy some sort of legal requirement? One thing is for sure, the US made stuff is not the same as the Croat actual issued uniforms.
The other possibility is some US contractor got a hold of test cloth or something that didn't turn out right. Uniform costs within the US are in order; labor, cloth, and secondary materials. If the labor is off shore ("Caribbean Needlepoint" seems to suggest it is) then cloth is the most expensive element. Get the cloth cheap and woohoo... profit
Steve
The other possibility is some US contractor got a hold of test cloth or something that didn't turn out right. Uniform costs within the US are in order; labor, cloth, and secondary materials. If the labor is off shore ("Caribbean Needlepoint" seems to suggest it is) then cloth is the most expensive element. Get the cloth cheap and woohoo... profit
Steve
ripcord- Colonel
- Location : USA
Registration date : 2012-12-29
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Thanks for the quick reply.
That makes sense. Yes, the Croat made uniforms are very different,
and very cool. They seem to be of a better quality and cut than
the already tired ACU type design.
Thanks again, ripcord...
That makes sense. Yes, the Croat made uniforms are very different,
and very cool. They seem to be of a better quality and cut than
the already tired ACU type design.
Thanks again, ripcord...
jimmyduncan23- Major
- Registration date : 2011-07-29
Number of posts : 1493
i have both desert and woodland digital uniforms and the quality of them is high, they are made in croatia too.
CollectinSteve- ADMIN
- Location : New England, US
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Personally, I think the fabric is genuine Croat. Either samples to test various colors or mistakes made during printing. Probably test colors. Then, after selection was made, they had surplus cloth. A US based company purchased it and used their existing patterns (ACU) to knock out some uniforms. As I said above, cheap cloth + offshore labor + no special customization = quick profit. At least in theory
Steve
Steve
ripcord- Colonel
- Location : USA
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Dug this out today to show someone, and remembered that I had been meaning to post a few photos of it.
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CollectinSteve- ADMIN
- Location : New England, US
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I figure I should post my question here about a Navy uniform I have.
The mystery uniform is in the Croat cut in every meaningful way. It has the same size tag in the neck as the standard type, but it lacks the military identification tag. The colors are spot on correct, as well a having OSRH in the print. That is pretty much where the similarities end! Differences:
1. It is smooth material, not ripstop
2. All of the zippers, other than one on the arm pocket, are fairly standard inexpensive types. No pull tabs, no double ended for the jacket front. However, they are identical color to the standard type (i.e. not black).
3. Buttons are the same color, size, and general appearance but slightly different style.
4. No velcro for badging
5. No elastic gathers at the trouser cuffs
Based on this I'd say what I have is not genuine issue. However, it appears to have been made by a Croat military contractor. The cloth also seems to be genuine government production. Perhaps a factory sample made from test "winter weight" cloth. As we know, many nations in Central and Eastern Europe have separate summer (ripstop) and winter (smooth) uniforms. Maybe Croatia thought about doing the same thing? Or perhaps the cloth was a cheaper test print that a contractor made into semi-commercial uniforms just to get rid of the cloth.
Any thoughts?
Steve
The mystery uniform is in the Croat cut in every meaningful way. It has the same size tag in the neck as the standard type, but it lacks the military identification tag. The colors are spot on correct, as well a having OSRH in the print. That is pretty much where the similarities end! Differences:
1. It is smooth material, not ripstop
2. All of the zippers, other than one on the arm pocket, are fairly standard inexpensive types. No pull tabs, no double ended for the jacket front. However, they are identical color to the standard type (i.e. not black).
3. Buttons are the same color, size, and general appearance but slightly different style.
4. No velcro for badging
5. No elastic gathers at the trouser cuffs
Based on this I'd say what I have is not genuine issue. However, it appears to have been made by a Croat military contractor. The cloth also seems to be genuine government production. Perhaps a factory sample made from test "winter weight" cloth. As we know, many nations in Central and Eastern Europe have separate summer (ripstop) and winter (smooth) uniforms. Maybe Croatia thought about doing the same thing? Or perhaps the cloth was a cheaper test print that a contractor made into semi-commercial uniforms just to get rid of the cloth.
Any thoughts?
Steve
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