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    Post by vonstuck Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:59 pm

    lizard pattern used by few "Francophone" African country
    The pattern is very different than the French F2 pattern
    The 2 garments are near mint, so you have two colors variant
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    Cameroun

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    Cap vert: it is the same pattern but with garment cut different

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    Guinea Bissau

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    Post by vonstuck Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:21 pm

    lizard pattern used by few "Francophone" African country Camero12

    Cameroun: same pattern in TAP56 cut garment
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    Post by cmrosko Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:45 pm

    I would love to get my hands on both sets, nice images as well.
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    Post by drmatz Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:56 pm

    some other francophone uniforms...

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    Post by vonstuck Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:07 pm

    lizard pattern used by few "Francophone" African country
    The pattern is a derivative of the French F2 pattern
    Build between the 1970 and 1990
    After 1990 you can find the precedent lizard
    Garments with the good French F2 pattern are always build and used in "Francophone" African country
    I will not put pictures for illustrate this pattern because it is not easy to make the difference with the French F2 pattern

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    derivative + F2 pattern

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    Post by Albano Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:46 pm

    Cap Vert and Guinea Bissau are not quite francophone Wink

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    The first (almost not seen) and second guys back on the left side seems to be wearing portuguese 2nd pattern DPM but i never seen a short sleeve shirt like that Shocked . Anyone have info!?

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    Post by vonstuck Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:17 pm

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    A set of an Belgian officer in Zaïre
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    Post by CollectinSteve Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:45 pm

    What was a Belgian officer doing in Lizard camouflage? Also, those "Commando" arcs are for the dress uniform, not field. The jump badge is also for the dress uniform, however sometimes it was worn in the field a long time ago.

    A strange piece.

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    Post by vonstuck Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:26 am

    When I have ask if he have a picture where he wear this set, he has send this picture
    Crazy! But he have not keep this set
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    Post by Gubbio Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:39 pm

    There are a couple of other African lizard patterns that I don't think I saw in this posting. Granted, they are Mozambique, which is not a Francophone country -- both then again neither are Cape Verde and Guinea Bissau Francophone countries either. All three are Lusophone countries. But since two Lusophone countries were already included in this thread, why not include one more. One interesting thing about these uniforms is that they are the exact same uniforms worn at one time by the Portuguese commandos and marines -- not just the same style uniform, but the same uniform made by the same manufacturer:

    Mozambican commandos

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    Same uniform as worn by Portuguese commandos

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    Mozambican marines

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    Same uniform as worn by Portuguese marines

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    Post by Gubbio Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:37 pm

    The first (almost not seen) and second guys back on the left side seems to be wearing portuguese 2nd pattern DPM but i never seen a short sleeve shirt like that. Anyone have info!?

    I have a short-sleeve Portuguese DPM shirt, but the collar and pockets are different. And I have a long-sleeve DPM dolman jacket that, like the one in the photo, only has two pockets (instead of the usual four).

    But I have never seen a shirt that combines elements of both, like the one Albano pointed out. Perhaps it was made under contract by a Portuguese manufacturer for Guinea Bissau. BTW, I find it interesting that the berets and rank insignia are very similar to the Portuguese ones.
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    Post by Gubbio Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:41 pm

    I forgot to post this photo of the Mozambican commandos' shirt shown the photo above. As you can see, it's exactly like the Portuguese one. The only difference is the insignia.

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    Post by Albano Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:40 am

    Hi Luis

    Like the "DCT" Mk.I on the back. They're becoming scarce. Must get hands on one before it's to late Wink

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    Post by Gubbio Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:53 pm

    Yes, the stuff from DCT and the Legião Portuguesa are getting hard to find. I've had that helmet for more than 30 years...
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    Post by Easy Gee Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:17 am

    Great thread guys, here's a couple of my Lizard pattern Jackets.These Jackets both have Rose branded zips, and appear to be made from the same manufacturer, but I am unaware of the country that may have used them?

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    Post by vonstuck Mon Aug 20, 2012 1:53 pm

    Be sure used by Chad
    This variant F2 pattern was used during the 80's
    Not enought pictures of this period, and not easy to identfy this pattern on picture
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    Post by Easy Gee Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:58 pm

    Many thanks for the confirmation of the country of origin being Chad Gilles, that's very useful to know, I have carried out a lot of search's of this particular pattern to no avail.

    Great confirmation,thanks!!!!
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    Post by vonstuck Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:51 pm

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    This shirt is Cyprus
    I have found this shirt in my city, so I was thinking it is a French build but it is not
    It is Chyprus
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    Post by sh4pak Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:30 pm

    Since I am a novice on this subject, what is the distinction between the Francophone versions, and the French export? I've got one that was sold as export, but I wouldn't have the first clue as to being able to figure out whether this is true or not (I mean, clearly, it doesn't have a tag that explains the origin, or I'd have noticed that...)
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    Post by vonstuck Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:00 pm

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    French army had never used lizard camouflaged F1 garment
    This jacket is just assembly from the seller
    And French army had never used the F2 derivative lizard camouflage

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    Post by vonstuck Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:08 pm

    Generaly all of these garment have not label
    But today, I think there are not build in France
    For French camo and garment, see my website
    http://vonstuckcamouflage.free.fr/france.php

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    Post by Easy Gee Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:24 pm

    Again Gilles very useful information, I can see why novice collectors could fooled by the legion F1 example shown!!
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    Post by sh4pak Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:09 pm

    Here's the one I found:

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    No tag, but YKK zippers, and HBT fabric:

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    My guess is that it is a poly-blend, as it does not shrink when you try to shrink it. The snaps are very poor-- easily crushed. I've no worries about it being unauthentic-- it was very inexpensive, and I still like it, but does one figure that it was made in France, Africa, or perhaps China?
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    Post by Easy Gee Sat Aug 25, 2012 7:19 am

    Very nice example, a YKK zipper surely shows it being a quality item, I have no ideas of it's country of origin, but I would hazard a guess that having a YKK zipper would rule out PRC manafacturer ..but that is a guess!

    My examples have poor quality poppers too, the metal rusts very easily!
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    Post by vonstuck Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:59 pm

    The black is a colors in more, not the add of the brown and the green

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    In fact, I don't know if this jacket is just a bad copy of a TAP56 jacket (only 2 snaps on the pockets) or if it is build for an African country

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    The F2 pattern don't exit in 1953
    I would be very surprised that this F2 variant exist in 1953


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