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    Post by Gemini Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:30 pm

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    YAY! My first piece of British Gear! The famous DPM smock. I have wanted one of these for a long time. I found this one on Sportsmanguide.com for quite a deal.
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    This shoulder pocket is very small. I do not know what would fit in it.
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    This is a strange pocket, what was it ment for? Does it have a specific use?
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    Made in Great Britain! By Sturm. This is a great coat it has been well used but still in good condition.
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    Post by loski Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:05 pm

    the pocket on the left sleeve is a pen pocket and if there is a pocket on the upper rear of the right sleeve it is for a First feild dressing, the pocket on tbe bottom of the back is a poachers pocket and if the jacket is turned insideout it can be rolled into this pocket to make it easier to stow it in a rucksack.
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    Post by Camo_fiend Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:57 pm

    Nice smock!

    They actually got your order right... I tried to order one of these and got a Pattern 85 smock. When I sent it back to exchange it for the right thing, the replacement I received was another P85 smock. Oh, but it gets better -- said smock was the same smock I had just sent back! (I could tell from the dirt stain on the back of the jacket.)

    Talk about frustrated!


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    Post by Gemini Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:20 pm

    Thank you Graham!Sorry to hear about that Ben,that is garbage!I have heard mixed feelings about Sportsmen guide.I just could not pass up the price!What is this smock?A 95?
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    Post by loski Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:17 pm

    No its a pattern 85 same as this one
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    Post by Camo_fiend Mon Dec 12, 2011 2:03 am

    I'm 99.4% sure the original smock posted is a 94 pattern version. You can tell by the vertical zippered pockets on either side of the top chest pockets. The 85 pattern smocks did not have the vertical zipper pockets.


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    Post by Gulf91 Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:02 am

    Camo_fiend wrote:Nice smock!

    They actually got your order right... I tried to order one of these and got a Pattern 85 smock. When I sent it back to exchange it for the right thing, the replacement I received was another P85 smock. Oh, but it gets better -- said smock was the same smock I had just sent back! (I could tell from the dirt stain on the back of the jacket.)

    Talk about frustrated!

    That smock Gemini has IS an 85 Pattern smock.
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    Post by Gulf91 Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:15 am

    The 1st pic does indeed look like a 90(or 94-whatever you prefer to call them) smock as it had the zipered pockets but the other pics look like 85 patt Shocked
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    Post by Gemini Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:07 pm

    Just to confirm,mine does indeed have the zipper pockets.Is it possible that maybe it was turned into a 94?Maybe to save on material or that 85 cloth was used to make an 94?
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    Post by Gulf91 Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:09 pm

    Does it have its original issue label?

    Seeing as it has a STURM inkstamp inside i know they are known to sometimes do some weird and wonderful alterations to some kit for whatever reasons.
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    Post by Gemini Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:37 pm

    Would that be the paper label beneath the collar?If so then yes.
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    Post by Gulf91 Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:39 pm

    Gemini wrote:Would that be the paper label beneath the collar?If so then yes.

    Hmm,paper?

    Probably cloth but either way a pic would help.

    I dont have my smock to hand to check the inside so it might possibly be 100% legit.
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    Post by Gemini Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:45 pm

    I would take a pic but my camra phone does not have high enough quality Gulf 91,you would just be stareing at a grayish blob!What if I put what the tag says?
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    Post by Gulf91 Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:48 pm

    Gemini wrote:I would take a pic but my camra phone does not have high enough quality Gulf 91,you would just be stareing at a grayish blob!What if I put what the tag says?

    Great stuff Very Happy
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    Post by Gemini Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:03 pm

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    And then it goes off into a bunch of washing direction.
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    Post by Gulf91 Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:25 pm

    Cannot help im afraid as i cannot find my smock-pretty sure i gave it to a friend for free.

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    Post by Albano Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:56 pm

    Gemini wrote:SMOCK COMBAT
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    And then it goes off into a bunch of washing direction.

    Hi

    Does it really says NATO SIZE 7550/9505!?

    Are not NATO sizes height/chest!? ie. 7585/9505 for 75 to 85 cm height and 95 to (1)05 cm chest

    Just a doubt not unbelieve what you wrote Smile

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    Post by Gemini Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:57 pm

    I checked again,it was really faded so it was hard to make out.I belive it says 7550/9585
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    Post by loski Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:24 pm

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    This is a picture of the lable in my latest DPM hooded smock and the nato size is deffo an 8 digit No
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    Post by Easy Gee Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:28 pm

    zips either side of main zip= 94 pattern.

    I have seen many US purchased DPM garments now with the sturm stamp, it does'nt mean it's a commercial/fake or whatever,purely an ex-UK Gov piece stamped by sturm, I suppose it's like their ownership mark!!!

    Cool piece,welcome to the world of DPM collectors hell, now you're going to have to get every single model from 60- to current MTP. Laughing Twisted Evil

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    Post by Camo_fiend Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:26 pm

    I finally found myself a 94 Pattern smock... great jackets! Also picked up a pair of P68 trousers to match my salty, faded P68 smock. Good day! Smile


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    Post by Gemini Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:36 pm

    My lable has no contract number Graham,is that a bad sign?Cant be that many models Gary. alien
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    Post by Gulf91 Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:52 am

    I might be opening a can of worms here but what is the designation for these as i hear people calling them 90,91 and 94 pattern.

    I know many many years ago when they 1st appeared on the market they were ALWAYS referred to as 90 pattern but this seem to have changed????
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    Post by Camo_fiend Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:14 pm

    Gulf91 wrote:I might be opening a can of worms here but what is the designation for these as i hear people calling them 90,91 and 94 pattern.

    I know many many years ago when they 1st appeared on the market they were ALWAYS referred to as 90 pattern but this seem to have changed????
    I have noticed this as well, but I can't seem to find any differences between the "90" and "94" patterned smocks. I've always called them 94 pattern, most likely in error. Laughing

    However, I have heard that desert smocks in this style were around during Gulf War 1, so my guess is that 90 pattern would probably be a more fitting designation.


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    Post by Gulf91 Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:19 pm

    Guess we will never know as these crazy collectors have an obsession with trying to "pattern" everything-sometimes even when no such pattern exists.

    Personally i tend to go with whats on the official labels such as 60 and 68 Pattern and also CS95.

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