Temperate DPM smock

Gulf91 wrote:Guess we will never know as these crazy collectors have an obsession with trying to "pattern" everything-sometimes even when no such pattern exists.

Personally i tend to go with whats on the official labels such as 60 and 68 Pattern and also CS95.

I will second that

loski wrote:

Gulf91 wrote:Guess we will never know as these crazy collectors have an obsession with trying to "pattern" everything-sometimes even when no such pattern exists.

Personally i tend to go with whats on the official labels such as 60 and 68 Pattern and also CS95.

I will second that

In my time in the forces the s94 was being introduced in the seasonal camo. There there also incremental type uniforms well smocks around that period too.

My mate in the ITB was wearing a pre-80's cloth jacket, sewn edge pockets like the s94/95 but no front zipper pockets but 80's style button and zip closure front.. I wore it for a while when my smock was washing. The print on that smock my mate had was very very spotty design printed on white cloth, the s94 stuff was printed on coloured cloth. So his jacket may have been a trial one.

Camo_fiend wrote:

Gulf91 wrote:I might be opening a can of worms here but what is the designation for these as i hear people calling them 90,91 and 94 pattern.

I know many many years ago when they 1st appeared on the market they were ALWAYS referred to as 90 pattern but this seem to have changed????

I have noticed this as well, but I can't seem to find any differences between the "90" and "94" patterned smocks. I've always called them 94 pattern, most likely in error.

However, I have heard that desert smocks in this style were around during Gulf War 1, so my guess is that 90 pattern would probably be a more fitting designation.

Have a look at post 18 on the thread https://iacmc.forumotion.com/t4784-90-pattern - I posted a few photos of a smock that I was issued in 1992/3 of the type we always referred to as tyhe '90 ptn. Key features are a slightly thicker type of cloth than the 85 ptn, "box sewn" pockets rather than the useless "baggy" type with a fold over top rather than the horrid gapping open ones!

94 Ptn was similar but with the addition of the two vertical zipped pockets on the chest. I first saw one of these in 1993-4 when a senior NCO was given one "for testing" (as he claimed). Certainly they did not seem to become general issue before the S95 was introduced and the one I have was not issued but blagged off a mate in stores.

hello, this is my vintage smock 80/90label

Ahh - the early CS95 Jacket, very nice!