Need ID for this rucksack

got this rucksack about a month ago from the mail. but im not sure what rucksack is this. It sorta looks like a German NATO rucksack but it has a padded shoulder straps and a back padding so im not sure. no stamp or markings i found inside. but here's a picture:

Doesn't look genuine German Army to me. If it isn't civillian it might be South African going by the quick release on the shoulder straps.

Might have been better placed in the 'identify this' section. Then again, what do I know

My first guess would be South African-- because it has much of the WWII feel to it, with modern improvements.

SADF rucksak would be my guess to. But it's not either a P70 one (dispite it's similarities) or a P83 (not even close)

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I answered the other post as well. Definitely not German. It has features consistent with US 1940s and early 1960s field equipment, though I've never seen his particular rucksack before. Though I'm certainly no expert on US field equipment.

Steve

Its British I think, old but I don't know what it is, who made it. But back in the dim and distant past I have seen several of them. The sack itself looks very similar to the old 1944 Rucksack so it could be inspired by that.

Looks like nothing I have seen before and as commented by others looks like a mix of US,British and SA but no German influence anywhere that I can see.

Some sort of former British colony is a good guess. They made all kinds of canvas kit that was based on older British designs.

Any "German" influence might be because of the large top flap and lower pocket. True that this is a common feature of German rucksacks, but it is also true for others (Austria and Italy come to mind).

Steve

The features on the top flap are quite similar to the second model 1944 pattern pack. But the colour, which appears to be khaki, and the hardware, would lead me to guess that this might be associated with the IDF.

Identical in design to rucksacks issued in Hong Kong to Territorial Forces there whilst under British rule (pre-1997).  The only difference is that the material of those were Malaysian 'brush' camouflage nylon.  It has some very 'Commonwealth' features - the back padding and shoulder straps being somewhat reminiscent of Australian and Singaporean packs of the 60's-70's.  There were a number of Far Eastern companies putting out packs and both '44 and '58 pattern webbing copies.  Photos also show that almost identical packs were used by some Australian SASR patrol members in Vietnam.

Now that I think of it, this might appear in one of the books on British postwar jungle kit. I don't have a copy at hand.

As part of the British 44 patt webbing there were the 2 packs that are easily available,the so called small and large packs but from memory there was also a 44 patt stand alone rucksack as well,will have to check my books to see if its one of them.

Commonwealth Jungle warfare school pack made in Singapore at the time when there was a Commonwealth JW School in Malaya. After the British pulled out in the early 70's the school stayed open. Pack was contract made in Singapore for the instructors and students. Further copies were made in Hong Kong for the Gurkhas. So I've been informed.

Gulf91 wrote:As part of the British 44 patt webbing there were the 2 packs that are easily available,the so called small and large packs but from memory there was also a 44 patt stand alone rucksack as well,will have to check my books to see if its one of them.

The "Small" pack was the original haversack, the "Large" pack was the second version introduced in the 1960s.

The '44 "Rucksack" used the shoulder straps of the two haversacks. My one is "BH&G Ltd", 1964 dated: