Dutch Landmacht camo display

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    Dutch Landmacht camo display

    Post by belgium_one on Sat Apr 23, 2016 2:57 pm

    Hello Smile

    first class sergeant from dutch land forces (Landmacht) in DPM camo






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    Re: Dutch Landmacht camo display

    Post by Wolverine on Sat Apr 23, 2016 7:11 pm

    Were the magazine pouches normally worn in pairs? Most photos that I have seen seem to show just one magazine pouch. Perhaps non-infantry types did not wear pairs.

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    Re: Dutch Landmacht camo display

    Post by belgium_one on Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:18 am

    Hello Very Happy

    some pictures of the same combat equipment :


    with twin mag pouches







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    Re: Dutch Landmacht camo display

    Post by James K on Mon Apr 25, 2016 1:27 pm

    Those trousers had a really good waist adjustment the Dutch kit was very useful

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    Re: Dutch Landmacht camo display

    Post by Wolverine on Mon Apr 25, 2016 2:25 pm

    With regard to this first generation DPM gear, does anyone know the purpose of the small cylindrical bags (they exist in both desert and woodland - see my desert example below). Also, I have wondered about the purpose of the female fastex buckles on the front of the vest?


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    Re: Dutch Landmacht camo display

    Post by CollectinSteve on Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:50 pm

    Very nice under documented subject matter. I have the vest in both woodland and desert, but I only got some of the woodland pouches. Now I want to look for the rest!

    BTW, I was moving around a box yesterday and found all my 1950s/1960s Dutch stuff. It all came from one veteran as the names match on several pieces. I've not seen good documentation on what the Dutch wore during this time period. I know for sure I'm missing a canteen, but maybe I'm missing something else as well.

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    Re: Dutch Landmacht camo display

    Post by Wolverine on Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:49 pm

    Steve,

    Check my plunjebaal thread - it has most of the PSU items circa 1950s-80s (I still have more to post there). I have researched the matter in some depth, and can fill in the blanks. But basically everything is based on the M58 and/or M78 uniforms. Actually, the M58 outerwear continued in service with the new M78 fatigues. The M. Talens book is the master work on this stuff I would say.

    Regarding the first generation DPM vest (often referred to as the "bokketuig"), most of the woodland pieces are widely available. Desert pieces are a little tougher, although I think I have most of them except for the rifle magazine pouches and holster.

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    Ronnie tober

    Post by jeva on Mon Apr 25, 2016 5:32 pm

    Its called a Ronny tober tas. RoToTa .
    Its a small day pack that will fit on the Harnass and thats called bokketuig. A name for a not very popular carrying system.
    BOKKETUIG .GOATS harnass.....Bokke means Bad in slang.

    Wolverine wrote:With regard to this first generation DPM gear, does anyone know the purpose of the small cylindrical bags (they exist in both desert and woodland - see my desert example below). Also, I have wondered about the purpose of the female fastex buckles on the front of the vest?


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    Re: Dutch Landmacht camo display

    Post by Wolverine on Mon Apr 25, 2016 9:20 pm

    [quote="jeva"]Its called a Ronny tober tas. RoToTa .
    Its a small day pack that will fit on the Harnass and thats called bokketuig. A name for a not very popular carrying system.
    BOKKETUIG .GOATS harnass.....Bokke means Bad in slang.

    Thanks Jeva,

    Is it meant to clip on to the female buckles on the front of the bokketuig? And what is the connection to Ronny Tober?

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    Re: Dutch Landmacht camo display

    Post by belgium_one on Wed Apr 27, 2016 8:56 am

    Hello Very Happy

    more pictures :


    ready for action !


    C3 gasmask (canadian made)


    dutch DPM shirt (the cap is not dutch)



    with desert uniform :




    DPM vest with desert camo

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    Re: Dutch Landmacht camo display

    Post by abefroman on Wed Apr 27, 2016 9:54 am

    belgium_one wrote:Hello Very Happy

    more pictures :


    C3 gasmask (canadian made)


    DPM vest with desert camo

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    Very cool! Where is that last picture taken? Somalia? Pictures in actions always help demonstrate the historical importance of items!

    Also, What is the relationship with Canada and the Netherlands? They both seem to share a lot of equipment...

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    Re: Dutch Landmacht camo display

    Post by Wolverine on Wed Apr 27, 2016 10:12 am



    Very cool! Where is that last picture taken? Somalia? Pictures in actions always help demonstrate the historical importance of items!

    Also, What is the relationship with Canada and the Netherlands? They both seem to share a lot of equipment...[/quote]


    We just have to assume that the Dutch make wise procurement choices when it comes to rifles and respirators! Very Happy


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    Re: Dutch Landmacht camo display

    Post by belgium_one on Wed Apr 27, 2016 2:45 pm

    Hello Smile

    on the picture , the C7 rifles (canadian version of M16A2) have blank firing adapters
    it was taken during exercise in Spain with spanish army in 1997

    pictures of similar exercise in 1998 : http://nimh-beeldbank.defensie.nl/beeldbank/start/24?q_searchfield=zaragoza

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    Re: Dutch Landmacht camo display

    Post by belgium_one on Sat May 07, 2016 11:12 am

    Hello Very Happy

    in jungle camo :




    with RRV vest


    "garde grenadiers en jagers"

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    Re: Dutch Landmacht camo display

    Post by michelwijnand on Wed Nov 09, 2016 7:35 pm

    About the Ronny Tober thing, apparently it was a folk-singer that made some songs that were popular with some soldiers, and the bag was then coined after him because they both had a "bloated" round appearance.

    At least that's what a guy that used it told me

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    Re: Dutch Landmacht camo display

    Post by Wolverine on Wed Nov 09, 2016 7:53 pm

    Thanks for the info - I have always wondered where ROTATA came from!

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