Dutch early 90's DPM (NL Woodland) trial items

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    Dutch early 90's DPM (NL Woodland) trial items

    Post by michelwijnand on Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:57 pm

    I've recently had a bit of luck and came into posession of quite a lot of trial stuff pretty cheaply, I figured someone here might like stuff lke this
    so I thought I'd share some pics.
    Before this I only had just a early A-series (Beproevings serie A) body armor, and a VDN-Busch A1 helmet that came from Dutch stocks, while I only thought
    that Schuberth prototypes were used at this time, not counting the tests with the NP-9 helmet in the 80's PSU80 project.

    As you may see the armor covers are made of the regular DPM pattern later adopted for all items, and the field gear is all made in a thicker darker pattern.
    Larger items can be seen with a serial number starting with a single letter followed by a few numbers, and many smaller items have no markings at all.

    Early type A-series body armor.





    Late type A-series body armor cover, and B-series body armor cover.





    VDN-Busch A1 trial helmet. The cover is most likely not a trial item, but an early version before the type at the bottom of this post.








    Early A-series backpack, and early backpack of the type that later became the standard. The A-series one has a zipper all the way around
    to compress it when empty.






    Very strange B-series trial backpack that needs a good cleaning. It has the same straps and some details as the 2nd backpack above,
    but that's where the similarities end. Another collector told me he had once seen magazine pouches in this material too.






    Trial FN FAL, UZI and shovel pouches, and a regular type shirt I got as a freebie.





    Trial magazine pouches of a type of webbing that still isn't discovered, so noone knows how it attaches, will be selling some of these.
    Some collectors I spoke to called this part of some Israeli inspired webbing, but no actual details were mentioned.




    Trial pattern gasmask bag, with regular camo carrying strap and closure strap, possibly a very late trial type, as it also has an actual tag.






    Trial radio backpack (for a radio model that eventually wasn't adopted into service), sleeping mat with trial cover (named)
    The 2 packstraps and a later type 90's body armor plate are not trial versions, but simply bought on the same day, so I just
    photographed it at the same time.





    Trial compression sack (named and even dated, which is again pretty weird for trial stuff).
    The alice clips, and a liner band for a M95 helmet were also just bought on the same day.





    Not so much a trial item, but just an early version helmet cover for the Schubert 826 M95 helmet. I luckily found this large
    sized one to replace my medium one, so I have one to sell if anyone needs it.
    The 2nd photo is the actual medium size one.




    Another probably non-trial item, an American Body Armor made vest from 1990 in the same camo as seen on fieldgear above. Supposedly these
    were used by a small number of Dutch UNPROFOR peacekeepers in the 1st Signal battalion in Bosnia, and I should have a photo somewhere of it
    being used much later in Afghanistan.
    The pouches are all Marine Corps stuff, not trial.




    I'm slowly trying to make a full trial field gear set, to couple it with early made (1990) regular cut uniform pieces, to show a possible full loadout as tested back then.
    Sadly I can't find a canteen pouch, or small utility pouch yet.
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    Re: Dutch early 90's DPM (NL Woodland) trial items

    Post by masive on Tue Nov 15, 2016 4:25 am

    Nice collection. The brown Backpack is very interesting.

    One question: You wrote that the gas mask bag is a trial version. How can I see that, because theres nothing special on the label.

    I ask because, for example, on German army items it was marked on the label that this is trial webbing.

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    Re: Dutch early 90's DPM (NL Woodland) trial items

    Post by michelwijnand on Tue Nov 15, 2016 1:07 pm

    Thanks!

    The only thing that shows early field gear as being a trial series item, is in many cases the camo pattern, also with this gasmaskbag.
    The later pattern is easily recognized, here's a photo for comparison. The pattern is a different color, and the pattern is thinner regular DPM.



    Normally Dutch trial fieldgear has no tags at all, so this bag is a bit off in that respect.
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    Re: Dutch early 90's DPM (NL Woodland) trial items

    Post by masive on Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:33 am

    Thanks for your explanation.
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    Re: Dutch early 90's DPM (NL Woodland) trial items

    Post by Wolverine on Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:03 pm

    This is a great thread. Do you have any sources for the KMarns magazine pouches? I am especially looking for the Uzi magazine pouches.

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    Re: Dutch early 90's DPM (NL Woodland) trial items

    Post by michelwijnand on Wed Nov 16, 2016 2:35 pm

    Thanks, I hope to add more gear in the future. I'm still working on some possible sources to get more trial gear out of.

    I'm already looking for uzi pouches, but for someone else. Apparently the Argentine marines used the same uzi pouches in the Falklands war, which they reenact.
    I could keep my eyes open for other pouches though, if you need any other type.
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    Re: Dutch early 90's DPM (NL Woodland) trial items

    Post by Wolverine on Thu Nov 17, 2016 9:29 pm

    Sure, let me know if you come upon any spares (Kmarns), either for the UZI or the FAL.

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    Re: Dutch early 90's DPM (NL Woodland) trial items

    Post by michelwijnand on Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:44 pm

    I might have a lead on some FAL pouches. A shop I might be going to sometime in January or so says they have it.
    Also, do you ever see any more poncho rolls? They seem to have all run out over here
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    Re: Dutch early 90's DPM (NL Woodland) trial items

    Post by Wolverine on Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:16 pm

    If you mean the poncho rolls for the Kmarns webbing, I have only ever found them in the Netherlands. I have just two examples, one with leather straps and one with webbing straps. These are the only two I have ever seen for sale in my travels.

    Let me know what you find with the FAL pouches. If you are interested in any Canadian webbing, I have lots to trade.

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    Re: Dutch early 90's DPM (NL Woodland) trial items

    Post by michelwijnand on Sat Jan 07, 2017 11:36 am

    Yeah these poncho carriers are almost unfindable here too now.
    If you know anyone who might need kidney pouches, I might be getting an extra pair soon.
    I did see you already have them, but maybe you know someone interested.

    I'm going to a shop that has FAL pouches sometime later this month, so consider those found.
    I don't really collect Canadian gear though, I have way too many other loadouts that I'm working on to start more now.
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    Re: Dutch early 90's DPM (NL Woodland) trial items

    Post by Wolverine on Sat Jan 07, 2017 12:59 pm

    We'll work something out.


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    Re: Dutch early 90's DPM (NL Woodland) trial items

    Post by michelwijnand on Sat Feb 11, 2017 11:23 am

    Not really a trials item, but these were issued for a short while in 92-93, though some held onto them for quite a while, as this one came from a KFOR veteran.
    These were first used in the UNTAC mission by marines, and other forces in UNPROFOR.
    While on the UNPROFOR mission they were already superceded by the later model with the camo strips on the front and back, to attach alice-clip pouches to,
    which became the standard issue vest for a long time, until the MOLLE versions came out.

    They are really rare here now, especially in the condition and as complete as this one. Though I did have to work over the whole cover with tape, to get several
    thousands of animal hairs of, and wash the smell out...






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    Re: Dutch early 90's DPM (NL Woodland) trial items

    Post by michelwijnand on Fri Aug 11, 2017 2:05 pm

    Reuploaded the photos from posts 1 and 12 because apparently photobucket thought they weren't functioning badly enough.

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