US servicemembers in TAP47/56

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    Post by ripcord on Mon Apr 03, 2017 11:09 pm

    Guess this is a good place as any to post this unusual photo of what I believe to be US Marines somewhere is South Korea late '50 early'60s.




                                                                           











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    Post by CollectinSteve on Mon Apr 03, 2017 11:31 pm

    That's something I've never seen before. Hmm... I wonder what the circumstances were for Marines to be wearing these uniforms. You sure they are Marines?

    I think the date is early 1960s, though. These Marines are using the M-14, which started being issued in 1959 or so. Marines, being at the bottom of the new equipment pecking order, didn't get theirs until about 1961/1962 according to the Wiki on the M-14.

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    Post by fourtycoats on Tue Apr 04, 2017 3:10 pm

    They have to be Americans Steve just from the clean cut appearance. Also, they are not smoking or looking surly like true Europeans would.
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    Post by mylle on Tue Apr 04, 2017 3:43 pm

    That's what I thought too. They have to be Marines. Wink
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    Post by ripcord on Tue Apr 04, 2017 4:13 pm

    I am wondering if the packs are French..

    They dont look USGI.  

    Fairly certain they are Marines; haircuts and covers.. Covers appear to be either olive covers spray painted, or non USGI ..

    The first man appears  to be wearing a modded uniform; both smock and trousers..

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    Post by CollectinSteve on Tue Apr 04, 2017 4:41 pm

    I ask about the Marines thing because they could be Rangers or Airborne. I can't quite tell about the hats, but my first impression is similar to Ripcord's. They do look like the period HBT Marines cap with some sort of improvisational camo on them.

    OK, so if they are Marines they either are a super select small group favored with weaponry that their brothers didn't have, making it very late 1950s, or they are Marines without special weapons considerations, making it very early 1960s. I'd lean towards the latter especially since 1962 is sorta a benchmark year for the beginning of the Vietnam War.

    Obviously they are not French. Not only are they not chain smoking, but there is no sign of baguettes or croissants. Though those packs do look like they could be holding a week's worth of bouillabaisse Wink

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    Post by filupe on Sun Apr 09, 2017 12:18 am

    They look like one of the early US Army LRRP companies to me. The packs look a little big to be the French pack - I thought they might be the M1952 Mountain Rucksack but I'm not overly familiar with the details of those. Interesting that two of them seem to be carrying pistols as well and on the left side! I'm sure there are other pics of this quartet - I recall seeing one where they are front on ...
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    Post by ripcord on Sun Apr 09, 2017 12:24 am

    The only clue on the photo was the word LLRP, so it's very possible they are Rangers or even mountain troops.

    I thought Marines because no Ranger would wear a cover like the ones in the photo.


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    Post by filupe on Sun Apr 09, 2017 12:47 am

    Maybe it's just me but they don't look like Marine covers at all - they look like the M-1951 patrol caps favoured by the Rangers. Did the original pic say South Korea because I would placed this as Europe late '50s - early '60s.
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    Post by ripcord on Sun Apr 09, 2017 1:16 am

    To me, it does not look like M51s. I have a dozen M51s and none of them have creases at the same place that 8 point covers have them.. But let's agree to disagee, I dont want to argue over caps.

    At least we agree on the timeframe..

    The photo had Korean writing and LLRP written on it, so I figured Marines, but Marines could have been in Europe as well.  Every large ship in the Med has Marines on it and Marines are stationed throughout Europe.

    I think the clue may be  the packs..

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