Irish web equipment and helmet

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    Post by Wolverine on Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:56 pm

    I tracked these items down during a recent visit to Ireland.

    Orlite helmet, dated November 1984
    Irish web equipment and helmet Orlite10
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    PLCE-style web set - probably from trials
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    Irish web equipment and helmet Trial_11

    DPM web set, from a former gunner
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    Post by masive on Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:36 am

    Hi,

    Nice items. Did the web set have markings?
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    Post by Wolverine on Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:24 am

    Thanks.

    The PLCE trials set has labels on most of the pieces indicating Chinese manufacture.

    The second set doesn't seem to have any labels.

    I had been hoping to find a complete set of Irish-issued olive green PLCE, but didn't have any luck.
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    Post by Raptor on Mon Dec 04, 2017 2:44 pm

    PLCE-style web set - probably from trials
    Irish web equipment and helmet Trial_10
    Irish web equipment and helmet Trial_11

    DPM web set, from a former gunner
    Irish web equipment and helmet P1070912
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    Wolverine wrote:Thanks.

    The PLCE trials set has labels on most of the pieces indicating Chinese manufacture.

    The second set doesn't seem to have any labels.

    I had been hoping to find a complete set of Irish-issued olive green PLCE, but didn't have any luck.

    Aww FFS sake you should have asked me.I only went and offloaded a bag full of Irish OG PLCE a few weeks ago!You would have been more than welcome to it!!

    The top set was actually issued to Officer Cadets and recruit platoons circa 2005 as a stop gap until the new IPLCS battlevest and Bergen came on stream. The webbing(CEFO) was fine but the bergen straps had a habit of breaking under strain when heavily laden.As such the Bergens were hated and not used by serious soldiers!Yes you are right on its origins.Made in China. Don't ask me which company.Same crowd made a knock off N.I Chest rig in Irish DPM for use by Mechanised Infantry Overseas.

    The bottom set is an aftermarket commercially made item manufactured by Protac in the Curragh Camp
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    Post by Wolverine on Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:40 pm

    Just my luck, a day late and a dollar short. Well, if you see any more Irish-issued PLCE (or 58 pattern), let me know.

    Was the olive PLCE from British sources, or manufactured specially?

    About the second set of webbing, yes, the former soldier who sold it to me said he purchased it privately.
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    Post by Raptor on Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:37 am

    Just my luck, a day late and a dollar short. Well, if you see any more Irish-issued PLCE (or 58 pattern), let me know.

    Wilco. In the mean time I might be able to get my hands on the DF PLCE Instruction pamphlet for you.



    Was the olive PLCE from British sources, or manufactured specially?
    The first batches bought were made by CQC in the UK.The last batch was made in ireland by "TENBA Ltd" in Charleville,Cork.
    How you know the difference is the large "Tenba" stamp on the back of the pouches ,the Cordura is a lighter,thinner material and the "spanish" fasteners on the pouches had little "horns" sticking out on the pulltabs which prevented soldiers double locking the pouches.Most soldiers issued the tenba kit used to file down these "horns" just to enable them to do so.

    The major Differences between irish and UK OG PLCE was that the Irish version had the "C" hook belt fasteners as per version 1 UK Pattern. The bayonet frog was Steyr AUG specific. The waterbottle pouch was smaller and lacked the internal divider.The british respirator pouch had the internal fittings removed and fasterner changed from a press stud to a "spanish" fastener and became the "large utility pouch".The British utility pouch became the pouch for our old Shalon GS86 respirator.
    On the bergen there were 3 changes.the addition of a chest strap,An integral collapsible radio carrier inside the main compartment for the old '77 set and the moving of the outside lid compartment zip from the side of the compartment to just behind the neck with a velcro down storm flap.
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    Post by Wolverine on Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:07 pm

    Fantastic, thanks for the information - and it would be great to see the pamphlet.

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