Unusual ARVN Camouflage Jacket?, Cambodian? (originally posted by nkomo)

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    Unusual ARVN Camouflage Jacket?, Cambodian? (originally posted by nkomo)

    Post by ADMIN on Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:11 pm

    Here is one of my more favorite camouflage jackets in my Viet-Nam collection. This is a very unusual piece. I have been offered BIG bucks for this jacket, but have turned down all offers.
    This jacket is a 1969 0r 1970 dated ARVN brown dominant ERDL jacket. It has a nice SV QMC stamp in the neck area. It has a small tear in the back of the jacket in the back/neck area.
    Attached to the right breast is a Cambodian jump wing. Over both pockets is some strange writing. To me, it looks like Cambodian writing. Can anyone help me identify who used this jacket?







    Last pic. This jacket also came with a small short or xsmall short pair of US brown dominant ERDL pants. Both jacket and pants have equal fading and wear.

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    Re: Unusual ARVN Camouflage Jacket?, Cambodian? (originally posted by nkomo)

    Post by ADMIN on Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:11 pm

    Hmm..

    i am intrigued to say the least.


    A couple of questions for you;

    1.Is the direct embroidery and the Bao Chi tape constructed from a felt like substance?

    2.What are the button holes finished like?

    Have you had this item long if you do not mind me asking?


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    Re: Unusual ARVN Camouflage Jacket?, Cambodian? (originally posted by nkomo)

    Post by ADMIN on Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:12 pm

    Patrick,
    No, the Bao Chi tape and embroidery are not felt like. The Bao Chi tape is made of cotton and the other writing is direct embroidered on the jacket (cotton as well).

    As far as button holes, it has two different types. One type appears to be just cut while the other seems to have a sort of loop stitch style reinforcement.

    Length of time this been in my collection? I'd say 8 or 9 years.

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    Re: Unusual ARVN Camouflage Jacket?, Cambodian? (originally posted by nkomo)

    Post by ADMIN on Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:12 pm

    Other button hole. By the way there are no buttons or button holes on the cuff area on the sleeve.

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    Re: Unusual ARVN Camouflage Jacket?, Cambodian? (originally posted by nkomo)

    Post by ADMIN on Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:13 pm

    The jacket is dated 1969. I just checked.

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    Re: Unusual ARVN Camouflage Jacket?, Cambodian? (originally posted by nkomo)

    Post by filupe on Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:05 am

    Can you supply a picture of the tag?

    The 'Bao Chi' tape is Vietnamese for 'newspaper' i.e. this tape would have been worn by some sort of journalist. The wings are 'in country' made Cambodian. I'm not familiar with the script i.e. could be Cambodian/Lao/Thai. There is someone on USMilFor that can translate Thai but I don't know how they'd go with Cambodian ...
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    Re: Unusual ARVN Camouflage Jacket?, Cambodian? (originally posted by nkomo)

    Post by hochiminhtrail on Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:17 pm

    yes Bao chi, means journalist in this case.

    fantastic jacket i m looking for FANK items, a very rare piece indeed.

    cheers

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    Re: Unusual ARVN Camouflage Jacket?, Cambodian? (originally posted by nkomo)

    Post by hochiminhtrail on Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:18 pm

    well just seeing the script i m not sure if it s khmer or thai?

    we need to check that out.

    Cheers

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    Re: Unusual ARVN Camouflage Jacket?, Cambodian? (originally posted by nkomo)

    Post by hochiminhtrail on Sat Mar 28, 2009 10:33 am

    i think it s thai and not khmer

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    Re: Unusual ARVN Camouflage Jacket?, Cambodian? (originally posted by nkomo)

    Post by sepia on Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:01 am

    hochiminhtrail wrote:i think it s thai and not khmer

    Alex

    It isn't Thai,I sure Wink .But it's Khmer (or Lao),I don't sure Neutral .
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    Re: Unusual ARVN Camouflage Jacket?, Cambodian? (originally posted by nkomo)

    Post by panzerwerk on Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:56 am

    The Buttons bother me , they are the U.S. donuts not the typical saucers used in the making of ARVN uniforms , they could have been taken from U.S. uniform but this does not make much sense as there are still to this day plenty of original Arvn type buttons still around , Im not saying its fake , it would just raise a red flag for me , stamps are dime a dozen , I just dont know enough about these unis to make any firm statement , just pointing out the one weird thing I see .
    Also I dont remember if the Arvn manufactures ever used Ripstop , as said berofr it could have been made from a U.S. uniform and re tailored .

    Theoretically they should be this style



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    Re: Unusual ARVN Camouflage Jacket?, Cambodian? (originally posted by nkomo)

    Post by ken1224 on Sat Feb 27, 2010 3:53 am

    What is the size ? I am looking for a large long of XLT 6"2 230 lbs.
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    Re: Unusual ARVN Camouflage Jacket?, Cambodian? (originally posted by nkomo)

    Post by 1stDivVet on Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:06 pm

    I have one in a similar cut, but mine has lower pockets and no shoulder straps. Still made of brown dom ERDL and uses the donut type buttons.

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    Post by ken1224 on Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:20 pm

    1stDivVet wrote:I have one in a similar cut, but mine has lower pockets and no shoulder straps. Still made of brown dom ERDL and uses the donut type buttons.

    How much are you asking for it? sounds fine
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    Re: Unusual ARVN Camouflage Jacket?, Cambodian? (originally posted by nkomo)

    Post by kammo-man on Tue Mar 23, 2010 8:42 pm

    Nice news reporter jacket !!!!
    I just got a stunning Tiger one with similar tape but over the left breast pocket .
    Its hand done .
    yours is a stunner .
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    Re: Unusual ARVN Camouflage Jacket?, Cambodian? (originally posted by nkomo)

    Post by cjimmi on Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:34 am

    All i can help you with is the translation for the text: Reporter for Magazine Nheav Vik. it truly is Khmer text(Cambodian) i hope that helps.
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    Re: Unusual ARVN Camouflage Jacket?, Cambodian? (originally posted by nkomo)

    Post by nkomo on Fri Oct 28, 2011 7:14 am

    cjimmi wrote:All i can help you with is the translation for the text: Reporter for Magazine Nheav Vik. it truly is Khmer text(Cambodian) i hope that helps.

    Thanks for the translation. It reinforces what I recently found out about the jacket.

    Since this thread has been started, some interesting information has come to light about this piece. Pretty sure we have tracked down the original owner of the set and she was a quite controversial reporter for Newsweek magazine. She Started off working in Saigon as a stringer for Newsweek and when Newsweek’s Phnom Penh correspondent was killed, she went up and took his place. Lets just say she caused a LOT of problems for the US Government while she was there.

    The jacket is a small size, as was the woman in question. The date on the inner manufacturer's stamp is 69 and the reporter started her career in Vietnam/Cambodia in 1969. The direct embroidery on the jacket says Reporter Newsweek, as was the woman who we suspect owned this jacket. Seperately, you could make a case against the information leading to this woman, but when all things are taken as whole, they certianly make a convincing case.


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    Re: Unusual ARVN Camouflage Jacket?, Cambodian? (originally posted by nkomo)

    Post by nkomo on Fri Oct 28, 2011 7:56 am

    To give you an idea the size of the woman in question, this is her next to some Cambodian soldiers (kids in uniforms????). To me, the uniform that I have would have certainly fit this woman.



    Cambodia, 1970


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    Re: Unusual ARVN Camouflage Jacket?, Cambodian? (originally posted by nkomo)

    Post by filupe on Fri Oct 28, 2011 9:25 am

    Great detective work Arch! Unusual that she should wear Cambodian para wings, perhaps honorary .. after all she is 'SF'!
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    Re: Unusual ARVN Camouflage Jacket?, Cambodian? (originally posted by nkomo)

    Post by nkomo on Fri Oct 28, 2011 9:34 am

    filupe wrote:Great detective work Arch! Unusual that she should wear Cambodian para wings, perhaps honorary .. after all she is 'SF'!


    Actually, Hochimeintrail and Kammo-Man helped me figure this one out. Cjimmi confirmed the writing for me as well.

    The uniform has not been worn much and I don't think it was something she wore everyday. I am in the same camp as you about the Cambodian jump wings. I also agree it was something that was given to her as an honorary thing. Notice the lack of US or South Vietnamese jump wings.


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    Re: Unusual ARVN Camouflage Jacket?, Cambodian? (originally posted by nkomo)

    Post by nkomo on Fri Oct 28, 2011 9:42 am

    nkomo wrote:
    filupe wrote:Great detective work Arch! Unusual that she should wear Cambodian para wings, perhaps honorary .. after all she is 'SF'!


    Actually, Hochimeintrail and Kammo-Man helped me figure this one out. Cjimmi confirmed the writing for me as well. They gave me some great bits of information and I kinda filled in the blanks.

    The uniform has not been worn much and I don't think it was something she wore everyday. I am in the same camp as you about the Cambodian jump wings. I also agree it was something that was given to her as an honorary thing. Notice the lack of US or South Vietnamese jump wings.


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    Re: Unusual ARVN Camouflage Jacket?, Cambodian? (originally posted by nkomo)

    Post by kammo-man on Thu Nov 03, 2011 5:37 pm

    Very cool Arch .
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