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    Navy DBBU question

    Post by navax on Tue May 25, 2010 3:56 pm

    Does anyone know if the Navy ever used the DBDU aka the chocolate chip? Thanks Jake
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    Re: Navy DBBU question

    Post by Philip on Tue May 25, 2010 4:01 pm

    That's a good question. I don't know... maybe Seabees?


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    Re: Navy DBBU question

    Post by Camo_fiend on Tue May 25, 2010 4:05 pm

    According to what I have been able to find, when implemented it was authorised for wear by all branches...but that doesn't necessarily mean anything. Laughing

    I'm with Philip -- my bet goes to the Seabees if anyone.


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    Re: Navy DBBU question

    Post by navax on Tue May 25, 2010 4:28 pm

    I wonder if the corpsman wore the DBDU
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    Re: Navy DBBU question

    Post by Philip on Tue May 25, 2010 4:31 pm

    Forgot about SEALS. I think I saw some pics with choc chip... not sure though.


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    Re: Navy DBBU question

    Post by misanthropic_gods on Tue May 25, 2010 4:37 pm

    Here is a pic of some SEALS in Desert Storm, 1 has an M-14 while the other has a laser designator. Both are in 6 Color Desert.

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    Re: Navy DBBU question

    Post by navax on Tue May 25, 2010 4:41 pm

    Correct me if i'm wrong but I believe the Marines were in Desert Storm and if thats the case then the Navy would were choc's because the USMC doesnt have medical or religous staff. That is done by the Navy. If no choc's were worn, was there another camo uniform at the time?
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    Re: Navy DBBU question

    Post by navax on Tue May 25, 2010 4:44 pm

    misanthropic_gods wrote:Here is a pic of some SEALS in Desert Storm, 1 has an M-14 while the other has a laser designator. Both are in 6 Color Desert.

    I thought they did thanks! I was thinking about trying to get a Navy DBDU but I wasn't sure if there was such a thing.
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    Re: Navy DBBU question

    Post by misanthropic_gods on Tue May 25, 2010 4:45 pm

    navax wrote:Correct me if i'm wrong but I believe the Marines were in Desert Storm and if thats the case then the Navy would were choc's because the USMC doesnt have medical or religous staff. That is done by the Navy. If no choc's were worn, was there another camo uniform at the time?

    Not that I know of....very limited use of the 3-Color desert, but mainly everybody used the 6-color. Im sure some Navy personnel that were not out in the field, but still deployed in the gulf wore Woodland, because that was all they had. But im guessing the Seabees and Corpsmen etc.. used the 6-color desert just like everyone else.

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    I thought they did thanks! I was thinking about trying to get a Navy DBDU but I wasn't sure if there was such a thing.

    Hmm, the 6 color desert was around for a while...so there is a good bet there are some navy issued ones around though I have never seen any.

    SEALS arent a good judge of stuff issued as Organizational gear...NSW kind of does their own thing and do and get whatever it takes to get the job done.
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    Re: Navy DBBU question

    Post by navax on Tue May 25, 2010 5:12 pm

    Ok so I have a new question. Are there theatre made Navy patches? I know there might be for Seals and Seabees but any others?
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    Re: Navy DBBU question

    Post by CollectinSteve on Tue May 25, 2010 7:10 pm

    I know naval personnel deployed for OIF wore 3 Color Desert even outside of the combat theater performing logistics work. I assume the same thing happened for GW1, so it's possible (probable?) that some personnel wore 6 Color Desert because 3 Color Desert was just starting to be issued.

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    Re: Navy DBBU question

    Post by navax on Tue May 25, 2010 7:26 pm

    CollectinSteve wrote:I know naval personnel deployed for OIF wore 3 Color Desert even outside of the combat theater performing logistics work. I assume the same thing happened for GW1, so it's possible (probable?) that some personnel wore 6 Color Desert because 3 Color Desert was just starting to be issued.

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    you know that is a great point. I wonder if the Navy had access to the DCU at the time of desert storm.
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    Re: Navy DBBU question

    Post by nkomo on Tue May 25, 2010 8:51 pm

    As far as I know, the Navy did wear the 6-Color camo. Most definitely the Marines, SEALs, and Corpsman. Not so sure about the SEABEES because 6-Color was at a premium during part of DS 1. Many troops when first deployed wore Woodland BDU's.

    As far as 3-Color being used during DS 1.....it was around, but I can't find pics of it being used on a wide scale. I have heard that some rear-echelon logisitical units may have had access and wore it, but have never seen it worn in combat. Hope this helps.


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    Re: Navy DBBU question

    Post by nkomo on Tue May 25, 2010 9:08 pm

    Forgot to mention....the US Coast Guard wore the 6-Color camouflage as well.


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    Re: Navy DBBU question

    Post by navax on Tue May 25, 2010 9:38 pm

    nkomo wrote:Forgot to mention....the US Coast Guard wore the 6-Color camouflage as well.
    Is it possible the CG ones are on the market?
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    Re: Navy DBBU question

    Post by nkomo on Tue May 25, 2010 10:10 pm

    navax wrote:
    nkomo wrote:Forgot to mention....the US Coast Guard wore the 6-Color camouflage as well.
    Is it possible the CG ones are on the market?
    Yep....I have one. Very Happy


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    Re: Navy DBBU question

    Post by Camo_fiend on Wed May 26, 2010 1:40 am

    Ah, yes! I knew I'd seen a chocolate chip CG uniform somewhere! lol!


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    Re: Navy DBBU question

    Post by navax on Wed May 26, 2010 7:10 am

    Are the coast guard's choc's more or less rare then their DCU's? I haven't seen that many DCU's.
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    Re: Navy DBBU question

    Post by nkomo on Wed May 26, 2010 8:37 am

    Both are extremely rare in my experience. I will say this...in all my years collecting, I have seen more CG DCU's than the 6-Color camouflage.

    Here is a link to my USCG 6-Color jacket: http://iacmc.forumotion.com/us-coast-guard-f168/unusual-6-color-desert-uniform-us-coast-guard-desert-uniform-originally-posted-by-nkomo-t140.htm


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    Re: Navy DBBU question

    Post by downboy on Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:32 am

    Here`s another photo.Scanned from U.S. Navy SEALs Americas Toughest Commandos book by Samuel M. Katz.Published by Concord Publications COMPANY 1993.
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    Post by nkomo on Fri Jun 11, 2010 9:07 am

    Excellent photo! Thanks for posting! Now the second picture I've seen of the 6-Color modified jacket in use. Very Happy


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    Re: Navy DBBU question

    Post by navax on Sat Jun 12, 2010 12:29 pm

    Interesting.

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    Re: Navy DBBU question

    Post by Arkham Drifter on Sat Oct 09, 2010 1:23 am

    In 1993 I created a magazine layout for a NSW article and requested photos/info from the Navy's Office of Public Affairs. They sent me scads of pics along with actual film neg of SEALs wearing the desert camo pattern seen in the pic posted above by Downboy. In fact that was one of the pics they sent me! I had another dozen or so photos from that same photo shoot including one of a SEAL wearing a Skull Skates hip sack (fanny pack) as part of his kit. Most of the pics they sent me have since appeared in various books like U.S. Navy SEALs America Toughest Commandos.

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    Re: Navy DBBU question

    Post by downboy on Sat Oct 09, 2010 6:53 am

    Kinda curious which magazine(Popular Mechanics?)your referring to.NSW had a media blitz after Desert Storm.Been into SEAL stuff since the early 90`s and most of the stock photos if not taken by the Navy PIO would most likely be coming from Fred J. Pushies or Hans Halberstadt.These guys have authored numerous military books since then
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    Re: Navy DBBU question

    Post by Mercenary25 on Sat Oct 09, 2010 2:16 pm

    nkomo wrote: As far as I know, the Navy did wear the 6-Color camo. Most definitely the Marines, SEALs, and Corpsman. Not so sure about the SEABEES because 6-Color was at a premium during part of DS 1. Many troops when first deployed wore Woodland BDU's.

    As far as 3-Color being used during DS 1.....it was around, but I can't find pics of it being used on a wide scale. I have heard that some rear-echelon logisitical units may have had access and wore it, but have never seen it worn in combat. Hope this helps.

    Yes, seabees did. I saw a nice six color DCU with Navy name tapes and seabees embodied logo on ebay long time ago.


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