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    Cuban lizard

    Post by vonstuck on Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:00 am

    Cuban lizard by trident military







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    Re: Cuban lizard

    Post by panzerwerk on Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:26 am

    looks nice for a repo set , I wouldn't mind having a set .
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    Re: Cuban lizard

    Post by CollectinSteve on Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:32 pm

    Nice cloth, wrong cut, but great overall end product Very Happy

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    Re: Cuban lizard

    Post by filupe on Fri Nov 19, 2010 3:08 am

    Interesting in that these are done in the old Rhodesian fatigues cut - even the cap looks like the old Rhodesian flap cap. Could these be an export camo set for a neighbouring country?
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    Re: Cuban lizard

    Post by vonstuck on Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:46 am

    Copy ?







    The size of the shirt is S
    So I don't know at what corresponding the letter on the label
    The name of the copy of the Cuban lizard for the South African RECCE is copy L
    But it is not a South African build
    It is not an actual Cuban shirt, the cut of the garment is different
    For the pattern, it look like Cuban but I have not the entire cupon for the Cuban pattern
    So, I don't know
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    Re: Cuban lizard

    Post by vonstuck on Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:01 am











    Hello
    Plenty of guy have this as good Cuban camouflage
    For me it is nothing, just copy or another?
    First shirt is from a Thaïland seller on ebay, who have periodically this shirt to sell
    The second is from a french soldier who have bring back this from Bosnia. It is that he say, and for sell a jacket not finish to build as this, you need have a good story
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    Re: Cuban lizard

    Post by CollectinSteve on Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:25 am

    Thanks for posting your information Gilles!

    Here is a picture of Yugoslav/Serbian Purple Lizard on the left, mystery shirt on the right:



    You can see that the two patterns are nearly identical, but not exact.

    I have not compared the mystery shirt against Croat Gray Lizard or Yugo/Serb Green Lizard.

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    Re: Cuban lizard

    Post by vonstuck on Tue Mar 01, 2011 4:29 am

    Algodão = cotton in Portuguese

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    Re: Cuban lizard

    Post by drmatz on Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:12 pm

    here some cuban pics...

    I think the lizard that i sent to Joel is a original cuban shirt, i got it from steve a while ago, so he can probably shed some light to it's origin.
    My feeling is that those are much more recent lizard uniforms that are no longer manufactured in Cuba, but rather in South Korea, the colors, cut and fabric seem very consistent with other cuban pictures I've seeing.

    As for the pics posted by Gilles and Steve, im not sure colors look different from the usual Cuban Grey lizard...










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    Re: Cuban lizard

    Post by CollectinSteve on Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:50 pm

    Hmmm.... well, maybe it is a newer form of Cuban? I've personally never doubted that it is military issue of some sort, but Gilles is correct it doesn't match the older (let's call it "traditional") lizard. But we know poor nations like Cuba rarely have consistency with their uniforms.

    From what Gilles and I have been able to find out these shirts are from South Korea and have been for sale by a couple of sellers in Thailand that carry large amounts of South Korean surplus (both genuine and commercial).

    This picture of Danilo's is particularly interesting:



    Look at the guy on the far right. The features of his shirt, as well as the camouflage printing, appear consistent with the mystery shirt. Look at the sleeve cuff adjustments and how they button "forward" instead on the inside of the arm instead of "backwards" on the outside of the arm. This is an unusual configuration in general, yet it is the same for both the guy in the picture and the mystery shirt.

    Hmmm Very Happy

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    Re: Cuban lizard

    Post by drmatz on Tue Mar 01, 2011 5:50 pm

    Good points steve, also the pocket flap has the same "cropped" edge...
    I almost 100% the uniform is either issued to cuba or angola...

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    Re: Cuban lizard

    Post by CollectinSteve on Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:03 pm

    Oh, and look at the guy with the mustache. His left sleeve appears to show the same cuff tab adjustment.

    The chest pockets for these guys appear to edge billowed type instead of the center billowed like the early style we know is Cuban.

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    Re: Cuban lizard

    Post by vonstuck on Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:00 am

    Hello

    http://camopedia.org/index.php?title=Angola&oldid=3927

    The Lizard Cuban in the left is the same than my first Cuban lizard set: http://iacmc.forumotion.com/t3573-lizard-pattern
    The 2 others are the same than my 2 shirts with the 2 variants colors as mine

    About the picture of Danilo the guy in the fars right have the same pattern than my fist Cuban lizard set, not the pattern of the 2 jackets
    About the construct of the garment, the difference between the Cuban lizard and this 2 jackets are the form of strengthening on the elbow and the back who is in 2 part on the Cuban lizard and one part on the 2 jackets

    About this picture: http://i68.servimg.com/u/f68/15/98/33/17/20109810.jpg
    Maybe it is same shirt as this 2, the back is in one part, for the camouflage, I don't know, the picture is too small
    So certainly the shirt with the label is an Angola pattern
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