Royal Marines Commando grouping

Got these from Jeremy... he knows I'm a Brit kit addict and he had some deals!




Beret


Close-up of flashes and para wings.

Cool uniform, Nice to see a patched out shirt, just need to find a rank for the chest Although the badge on the beret isnt correct, being a kings crown version it would date from pre 1953.

Thanks! What's the difference in the newer badges? King's crown meaning to date before Queen Elizabeth II's ascension to the throne, so the design would be different, correct?

As a Brit kit collector, I should know this, but sadly I do not...

2ndAIF wrote:Cool uniform, Nice to see a patched out shirt, just need to find a rank for the chest Although the badge on the beret isnt correct, being a kings crown version it would date from pre 1953.

I was just doing some research and I believe it was actually adopted in 1952, in anticipation of the coronation. (yay, nitpicking!)

Is it possible that the RMC the beret belonged to used a pre-52 badge for historical reasons, like his father was in the RMC and that was his?

just a thought

Heres the badge you are looking for...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ROYAL-MARINES-RM-COMMANDO-QC-BRONZE-BERET-BADGE-/230558830198?pt=UK_Collectables_Militaria_LE&hash=item35ae608e76

The only difference being as you will see is the Queens crown on top, Also from memory they usually always wear a subduded version like this, and the brass version like yours is for officers, Im sure some one on here will correct me If Im wrong

Thanks for the info guys!

I have the Rank slide- I forgot about it when I dealed this with Jeremy. I can send it to You, I`ve had this set for approx 5 years or more.

I'll just pick up a rank slide off eBay, I've seen them go fairly cheap.

I didn`t said I`ll sell it - I`ve said I`ll give it to You If You give me Your addres I`ll just ship it to You It`s from this shirt so they would be a set. I don`t need it since I don`t have the shirt

PM sent!

Nice Bootneck kit Ben,the cap badge is officer issue,that or someone's polished the blacking off it

Thanks, Gary! I don't know if the capbadge had been subdued or not. I do like the look of it, though!

misanthropic_gods wrote:
Is it possible that the RMC the beret belonged to used a pre-52 badge for historical reasons, like his father was in the RMC and that was his?

It could also possibly be extra 'ally' points - like a sort of 'retro-cool'. I wore a KC unit badge myself until polishing it every so often made it a PITA. As to the colour - I'll have to check resources, but I think the blackened globe and laurel may only be for field dress/barracks wear and the unblackened/polished one for ceremonial. The officer's version is different only in that the crown and lion are a separate piece.

A nicely badged and desirable uniform for sure.

Glad you like them!

filupe wrote:

It could also possibly be extra 'ally' points - like a sort of 'retro-cool'.[/quote]
That's how the old school trops have made a comeback as well.

Mercenary25 wrote:Glad you like them!

Thanks again!

I stand corrected here is an example of a RM officers cap badge

Well thats interesting, I didnt know they have 2 piece cap badges

Nor did I. Thanks for that fact, Gary!

Camo_fiend wrote:Nor did I. Thanks for that fact, Gary!

You are most welcome Mate,after my previous and misleading post,I thought I should make ammends

No worries!

With regard to the cap badge. The brass cap badge with kings crown was the standard issue to Royal Marines prior to the coronation of Queen Elizabeth II the officers cap badge was split with a separate crown. Two badges were issued, one polished for general wear and one dull for use in the field.

After the coronation the Queens crown badge replaced the Kings crown version but it was not until the mid 1970's that the dark bronze badges for working dress wear and stay bright for formal wear, were introduced replacing the brass badges.

With regards to the 3 Cdo Bde insignia on the square. It is worn by all members of 3 Cdo Bde regardless of qualification. Army and RN commando's wear either Army Commando, Royal Navy Commando in addition to the red on blue commando dagger (this is the only issue version) with the green beret. Royal Marines Commando wear a black on green shoulder flash which replaced the red on blue Royal Marines Commando in the 1990's.

Prior to 1990 the Royal Marines Reserve wore a small red on blue R under the RM Commando shoulder flash but this is no longer worn.

There was a red on blue Royal Marines flash worn by Phase II Royal Marines and Royal Marines Reservists and non commando trained instructors with the Royal Marine Cadets (these instructors also wore an SC red on blue square under this shoulder flash)

Royal Marines band service had their own shoulder flash first type in red on blue and now black on green. They used to wear the green beret but no longer do, wearing instead, the old blue beret with red tombstone backing (as used by the Royal Netherlands marines). At various times there have been special band cap/beret badges for the band but they are no longer used.

Wings four types are in use on the old CS95 or current MTP uniform either standard RM wings or more recently the SBS wings. In addition APJI wings are sometimes used.

Each Commando has a reconnaissance troop which is parachute trained, the brigade reconnaissance force is also parachute trained whilst the SBS is of course parachute trained.

The SBS has its own signal squadron, it is entirely Royal Marines retaining their beret badge rather than the later SBS beret badge. Having passed the special forces communicator course they wear the new style special forces communicator wings.

Most Royal Marines wear a green or sand working belt, but sometimes the RM stable belt is worn. The RM signallers with the SBS wear the 18 Signal Regiment black stable belt or green SBS stable belt.

Hope that is of assistance and sorry for replying to such an old post.