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    Post by ripcord Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:10 pm

    Recent find

    New, never washed, 100% cotton ( non ripstop ) OG 107, circa late 1966- early 1967 Trousers, Men's , Cotton, Wind Resistant, or better known as  " jungle pants ".

    These are a transition from 2nd type trousers and would be the basis for the 3rd type.

    The most noticeable difference from previous and later models is the use of black colored waist cinches with black metal hardware.   The previous 2 types used a cloth tab and a button as a cinch.

    Later models will have olive colored cinches with black metal hardware.  


    As with everything related to the Vietnam war, there are no constants; these types trousers also have differences within their own type .



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    Post by ripcord Mon Apr 13, 2020 5:29 pm

    These are nicely  faded 1967 contract jungle pants.

    Unlike the pants in post # 1, these actually have a contract date.   They also have drawstings at bottom of each leg and softer points on pocket cover flaps.

    As I mentioned above, early 100% cotton non ripstop jungle uniforms follow no set rule and some will have features of  previous types..

    Some will have labels that are correct for 2nd type uniforms, like the label of the pants in post #1 which contrary to the label, have no leg drawstings, nor cargo pocket tie straps.

    I believe these labels were simply leftover labels from 2nd type uniforms, which have no contract date at all ( all 1st types do have contract dates of 1963 or 1964 ).





                   
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    Post by mylle Mon Apr 13, 2020 7:02 pm

    Very cool stuff, like the classic OD trousers. I still miss one of those pair of ripstop trousers for my unissued 3rd type blouse. The only problem is that i need the most popular size. Very Happy
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    Post by ripcord Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:47 pm

    Thanks Alex,

    In the past couple of years prices have shot up and availability of quality pieces gone down.
    Factor in value for most wanted sizes, and things look grim.

    Good thing ripstop uniforms were made in large numbers for at least 3 years, so your chances to find what you are looking for are still decent.


    Here is another early ( 1966-1967) non ripstop blouse.

    It is what I like to call a " transitional " type.    These types are basically 3rd types with some leftover features of 2nd type blouses.

    This one only has 2nd pattern labels, and a hanging loop at inner neck area which appear on all non ripstop blouses.  ( 1st and 2nd types have 3 labels while 3rd type have 2 ).  

    Usually these type will have hanging loops, epaulettes, or take up tabs, or a gas flap along the inner front placket or a combination of such.

    In this instance, the large instructional label describes features  clearly absent on this blouse.
     
    These are  " freak " uniforms that follow no set rule. Manufacturers used whatever leftover non ripstop materials they had on hand until stock was exhausted, thus creating some very cool variations .


                                                             


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    Post by ripcord Fri Nov 06, 2020 6:36 pm

    Here is another " transitional " 2>3 non ripstop blouse.

    This one has seen some stuff.   It's been with me since early 80's and came as is.

    Although tags are missing, there is clear evidence of 3 tags, which is consistent with 2nd. types.      

    Also hanger loop, adjustment tabs, and gas flap are evident .

    There is ghosting where insignia was that indicates a Spec. 4  101 Abn. paratrooper.

    The tags from the blouse in my previous post would be correct on this blouse.




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    Post by 1stDivVet Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:01 pm

    Nice early 3rd patterns. 2nd pattern had shoulder straps like the 1st pattern, but covered buttons on pocket. 2nd pattern also retains the gas flap. Early 3rd, or transition as you called them, will be in non ripstop poplin, be identical to a ripstop 3rd pattern, but will have large labels, neck hanger, and side tabs. Next will loose those but still be in non ripstop. Final will be in ripstop. There is also one in RDF cut.

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    Post by ripcord Tue Dec 29, 2020 5:06 pm

    Hi Fins,

    Thank you for your input.  Will eventually post 1st and 2nd type pieces, concentrating on early 3rd type for now.

    Another 1967 vintage blouse, but this time with correct labels (2) for a 3rd type.

    Looks to have been washed once ( maybe ), pressed, and put away for decades.




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    Post by mylle Tue Dec 29, 2020 5:33 pm

    Wow, now thats a great catch. Love the tapes....Pitty that mine has none.
    It looks way cooler with them.
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    Post by ripcord Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:07 pm

    Thanks Alex.

    The Leslie/USN blouse is one of the nicest I've seen.  Tapes do add to it.

    Yet another unused 1967 dated blouse.

    This one with similar tags as Leslie blouse .



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