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    Cotton poplin ERDL

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    Post by Kaaspersky Wed Jul 05, 2023 4:34 am

    Hello guys,

    I'm in need of your help.

    I recently acquired this ERDL jacket but it lacks any tags or markings, might very well have been removed.

    The fabric is a sturdy cotton poplin, which seems to eliminate the possibility of it being early Vietnam issued because those were a lot more flimsy and stitches were not as neat.

    A friend told me it could be some RDF BDU used during Grenada and Panama as some of them were issued in a sturdier poplin fabric.

    Could you help me identify this ?

    Maybe it's a whole other thing.

    Thank you for your time, continue sharint the camo love and have a great day.
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    Post by Kaaspersky Wed Jul 05, 2023 5:15 am

    Update: Might very well be some spanish ERDL made for the Infanteria de Marina
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    Post by ripcord Wed Jul 05, 2023 5:46 pm

    Looks like post Vietnam ERDL but it may also be a more modern copy. Not Spanish.



    https://iacmc.forumotion.com/t12297-erdl?highlight=erdl

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    Post by CollectinSteve Wed Jul 05, 2023 8:39 pm

    ripcord wrote:Looks like post Vietnam ERDL but it may also be a more modern copy.  Not Spanish.  

    Adding some details... Spanish Navy/Marines uniforms have a single exposed button for the chest pocket flaps, a feature unique to their uniform. Most of the uniforms were made in a thick cotton, not poplin. The last issue was in ripstop, but IIRC heavier weight than US type. Lastly, I'm not 100% sure, but I think Spanish ERDL/Woodland has larger shapes than US ERDL even though it definitely smaller than standard US Woodland.

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    Post by Kaaspersky Thu Jul 06, 2023 7:08 pm

    It does have a single button on the top pockets, it's just not fastened on the picture, my bad.

    Thanks for the help guys.

    It very well might be Spanish ERDL, if not I'll welcome any idea on it's origin.
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    Post by ripcord Thu Jul 06, 2023 9:47 pm

    Kaaspersky wrote:It does have a single button on the top pockets, it's just not fastened on the picture, my bad.

    Thanks for the help guys.

    It very well might be Spanish ERDL, if not I'll welcome any idea on it's origin.


    If it has a single button on the chest pockets, then it's no doubt Spanish Marines. I see the button holes now.

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    Post by Kaaspersky Fri Jul 07, 2023 6:05 am

    Thanks for all the infos and great help you provided.

    Have a great day.

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    Post by CollectinSteve Fri Jul 07, 2023 11:33 pm

    ripcord wrote:
    Kaaspersky wrote:It does have a single button on the top pockets, it's just not fastened on the picture, my bad.

    Thanks for the help guys.

    It very well might be Spanish ERDL, if not I'll welcome any idea on it's origin.


    If it has a single button on the chest pockets, then it's no doubt Spanish Marines.   I see the button holes now.  

    HA! When I made my post I didn't see them either! Yet now they are clear as day. Oops!

    This uniform came in two forms; Navy and Marines. The only difference is Marines has a stencil print logo over the left chest pocket, no doubt inspired by the practice of the USMC. It was a cheap way to distinguish themselves from the rest of the Navy. This practice continued onto the successor solid and then ripstop ERDL uniform. I don't think it continued onto the pixel pattern.

    The earlier ERDL uniform dates all the way back to at least 1984. From what I remember the earlier version had richer colors than the Army's uniforms, then later the colors were the same as the Army. They all faded pretty quickly and significantly so I'm not 100% sure the variants were deliberate or simply regular production variations.

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    Post by Kaaspersky Thu Jul 13, 2023 5:56 am

    Got a new one, Spanish too alright.

    It's not from the Marines, nor the Armada (navy) this time as the tag mentions "Ejercito de tierra".

    So some of them were issued to the army, in a lighter pattern it seems as there are only the 2 breast pockets and the fastening style is velcro this time.

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    Post by CollectinSteve Thu Jul 13, 2023 4:42 pm

    ET (Army) uniforms are completely different in construction and history from the Airforce and Marines, though all of them used the same basic camouflage pattern. There's some threads in the Spanish sections about the "Woodland" variants. There are A LOT of them.

    Your jacket might have a date on it. Usually ET items are clearly marked.

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    Post by ripcord Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:22 pm

    CollectinSteve wrote:ET (Army) uniforms are completely different in construction and history from the Airforce and Marines, though all of them used the same basic camouflage pattern.  There's some threads in the Spanish sections about the "Woodland" variants.  There are A LOT of them.

    Your jacket might have a date on it.  Usually ET items are clearly marked.

    Steve


    These types are known as M82. Steve is right. There are a lot of different cuts in this pattern.

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    Post by Kaaspersky Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:35 am

    Thank you guys, these are pretty fun to explore

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    Post by CollectinSteve Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:48 pm

    ripcord wrote:These types are known as M82. Steve is right. There are a lot of different cuts in this pattern.

    And confusing ones even to those of us who try to pay attention to the details! it keeps things interesting, that's for sure Wink

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