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    CWO3 Richard B. James Uniforms

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    Post by AndrewA74 Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:48 pm

    Hello,
    I've acquired some uniforms through a friend that belonged to CWO3 Richard B. James. James was killed when his AH-64D Apache went down into the Cape Fear River in North Carolina in 2005. According to the various reports, it happened late afternoon, bad visibility, and there were approximatly 30 downed power line poles in the area. CWO3 James was the pilot, and 1 LT Christopher M. Plummer was the co-pilot. CWO3 James was 44 years old, and has three children. All of his stuff was given to my friend, who is ethier using, keeping or gave much of it away. Here is a picture of his aircraft:

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    Here's what ARMY AIR CREWS.COM said about the crash:

    A/C crashed in the Cape Fear River near Buckhorn Dam on the Chatham-Lee county line during a training mission. Crash occurred approx 20 minutes prior to sunset in light rain into a setting sun with a broken to overcast sky. There were approx 30 downed power poles near the area of the crash.

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    Here are some news reports from the crash that happened in May 2005:

    http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/117122/
    http://www.armytimes.com/legacy/new/1-292925-837344.php

    The news reports detailed that James had just returned from a deployment to Afghanistan in May 2004, which explains the absence of a combat patch on these particular uniforms, however I know there is one more aircrew uniform I can try to get. This means these uniforms were used prior to his deployment.

    Everything on the Woodland Aircrew uniform has been stripped except the velcro for flag and unit patch. I did put a color flag on the flag spot. Here is a picture of the unit patch of the 1-130th Attack Helicopter Bn:

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    And pictures of the Aircrew uniform, dated 2000:

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    And pictures of the BDU Shirt I have. Luckily, the collar patches were still there. It's a start!

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    I also have a winter weight patrol cap with his name in it, just like every peice of gear he had. And I was able to get his Army Green Class A Dress Belt.

    Now what I need to restore this set currently are the following:

    2 JAMES tapes (Probably have to order those but that is a common name)
    1 Senior Aviator Badge
    1 Metal Subdued CWO3 rank
    1 Subdued NC NG patch
    1 1-130th Attack Helicopter Bn Patch

    I would love to restore these uniforms, and restore them to thier former glory, to honor CWO3 James. I may be able to find some of his BDU trousers also.

    Thanks for looking!
    Andrew
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    Post by misanthropic_gods Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:53 pm

    Wow, that is such a shame what happened to them. It is great of you to honor him like that. Bravo
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    Post by Camo_fiend Wed Aug 11, 2010 6:47 pm

    That'll be a nice display when you're done; looking forward to seeing it.


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    Post by AndrewA74 Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:01 am

    Good news! I was able to acquire a pair of his BDU trousers, and another Aircrew shirt he wore after his 2004 deployment. I'm having trouble figuring out the shadows, whether it's a 10th Mtn Div or an 82nd on the Combat Sleeve Side.
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    Post by Across1 Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:27 pm

    I discovered a great way to help figure out the shadows or ghosts. Stand near a bright light source and looking at the shoulder from the inside, hold it up to the light. The stitch marks should show pretty clearly. it may help better define your patch.
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    Post by Guest Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:26 am

    also if you are unsure if its 10th or 82nd the 10th one is a lot smaller in size than the 82nd and also you can do what ACROSS1 said and put it up to a light
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    Post by AndrewA74 Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:20 pm

    Hey guys,
    The threads are still there so it's pretty easy to determine the ghosts. Thanks for the tip Across1. I'm thinking it's 10th mountain the way the tab hangs and the patch has a slight bulge on each side.
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    Post by Across1 Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:22 pm

    I have two of those airmen ABDU myself that I'm trying to recreate. One is an officer's with the 82nd or XVIII airborne Corp and the flag is missing as well. It had aviator wings of course too. I'm just not sure what the rank & BOS was. Dose Warrant officers always wear the Warrant officers BOS?

    The other one was an enlisted man's probably SSGT or above, aircrew wings, airborne wings and here is the dilemma here... the left & right shoulders both have shadows of patches that could either be 82nd or XVIII Corp. Who knows. I guess I can make the choice and it would be correct either way. There is no flight patch or velcro sadly. So it makes both of them pretty standard.
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    Post by AndrewA74 Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:57 pm

    Well 82nd Airborne is much more common that 18th ABN CORPS. The Warrant Officer BOS has obsolete for some time now, you may want to check the date of the jacket and compare it to the phase out time.
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    Post by Across1 Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:23 am

    I'm not sure what that phase out date is but I'll have to check into it.
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    Post by swag Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:53 am

    30 April 2008 is the official wear out date for the ABDU (Aviation Battle Dress Uniform). After that date only the ACU and its variants are authorized for wear.

    From the official message regarding Warrant Officer BOS insignia (aka the Rising Eagle) wear out date:
    ALL WARRANT OFFICERS WILL WEAR THE APPROPRIATE BRANCH INSIGNIA ON
    ALL UNIFORMS EFFECTIVE 9 JUL 04.

    Prior to 9 JUL 2004 Warrants wore the Rising Eagle, with the exception of some aviation Cavalry units. (The Cav is a strange world unto itself.)
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    Post by Across1 Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:21 pm

    Thank you SWAG! I'll check the dates on ABDUs to see what I need to do. Yeah, Cav world is unique to say the least. Makes collecting fun though.
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    Post by morrjam512 Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:22 pm

    I recently came across your post requarding my brother CW03 Richard B. James. I am just wondering how you came across obtaining his personal possessions? And I was wondering what all you had/ or have of his. Or knowing the wearabouts of the items today.

    It would mean a great deal to my family and his children to have anything that belonged to him.

    You can contact me at ckjm1022@yahoo.com

    Thank you
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    Post by morrjam512 Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:30 pm

    I have almost all of his patches and all of his medals from his uniforms, The patches that you are looking for I probably have. He used to velcro the patches between his different uniforms and aviation jumpsuits.

    I was just letting you know this, because I wanted you to know that they are not missing or lost.

    Thanks
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    Post by AndrewA74 Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:23 pm

    Hello,
    I am emailing you momentarily. Thank you.
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